WotLK Manabug with retri

[Zallmar]

I was in the icc last week, and for some reason I always have low mana, even though when I look at other retries, they always have almost full mana. I feel like some of my talents are malfunctioning. No need to write about blue jug and pleya

[Shred]

Do you have the Judgements of the Wise talent?

[Zallmar]

yes,u can see, nickname- Alfacentaura

[Whiteman]

sometimes Judgements of the Wise talent gets bugged and doesnt give you mana on jug. you need to turn off your seal and relog and use seal again. sometimes just spec changes can fix it. that bug is active for more then a year

[Zallmar]

ty, tll try it

[Shred]

What I've noticed, and I don't know if this is a bug or not, is that when you use Judgement on an enemy that is one hit away from dying, whether they will be hit by the judgement, the seal, or melee is random*, which means if it's the seal or melee that kills the enemy, you don't get any mana.

* Most of the time, judgement is the first spell cast and therefore the one that kills the enemy.

[abrams96]

ret paladin is probably the most nerfed class in warmane, the mana is bugged, divine storm is bugged sometime not hiting target even when you are in range, the overall dmg is realy low compare to other 284 server that i wont mentioning for politics reason. The seal of vengeance is realy long to stack, tiny abomination on a jar dosent stack fast neither. Seal of command dosent proc correctly. It have been reported and said thousand time in forum over the year. Also we are in 284 (shadowmourn meta) since 2019, no one ret have been playing two hand spec for 7 years in arena in top ladder.. its insane. Even t1 rets complaining about the class : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B50mv1DeHog
Staff should looking deep into the class and analyze it again realy closely something is wrong its 100% sure

[Shred]

So many have claimed that, so few have managed to make a convincing report. Such a bug in SoV or tiny abo would be easy to prove, but nobody has done so yet. Be the change you want to be in the world.

[abrams96]

So many have claimed that, so few have managed to make a convincing report. Such a bug in SoV or tiny abo would be easy to prove, but nobody has done so yet. Be the change you want to be in the world.

not bigger than the shield of rightenousness who wasnt scalling with strenght until november 2023, playere are not developper they are not paid for fix bug, they are for tell you there is something wrong. Fact : no one complaining about preg dmg, or prot dmg, everyone complaning about ret dmg while being at peak ret meta with shadowmourn.

[TutellaF]

No, players are not expected to fix the bug, they are expected to provide proof of how it worked on retail in the old days (same 3.3.5a patch) and how it works here. Feelings are not evidence.

[Whiteman]

Mana return on judgment is bugged as i wrote above and how to solve that problem.
Another thing that if u trow judgment and target dies and u dont get your mana back, as i was tracking that on bug tracker it was fixed to work like that in last year in June i think.
Paladins are class that are always in favor of Blizz, a support class thats dealing huge dmg and can nuke down anyone very fast even with def cds.
Noone complained when paladin was double hitting with SOC and dealing x3 dmg on SoC proc

[abrams96]

divine storm barely working https://youtu.be/z_6g1FLbuzg (2026) was already reported by capsizer 7 years ago : https://www.twitch.tv/capsizer/clip/...=all&sort=time
+ mana nerf
+ dmg beyond trash
+ soc nerf
+ tiny abomination on a jar nerf,
what else did i forgot something ?

[Obnoxious]

Are they reported in the Bug Tracker?
Does the report include verifiable evidence?

I don't know who do you think you are, but no developer is going to waste their time chasing after evidence themselves because of someone going "it's bugged because I say so."

[Brutone]

Ret has a long history of beeing positive bugged that goes back in the molten era. Several double dipping abilites, SoC cleaving bug which made it possible to trigger up to 12 SoC hits in a single divine storm, list goes on and on. Ret was so broken in a positive way that it was competing with fire mages and fury warrs over the top dmg rank. Ppl are so used to these broken numbers that they forgot that ret is not a pure dmg dealer but a supporter spec with strong buffs and only mediocre dmg.