[GUIDE] Demonology: Dressing Up Like Illidan Since 2008 - 3.3.5a

[Violinist]

Is the suggested gear changed with Ruby Sanctum? i think there's at least one trinket that can be quite useful :)

As of now 25 man is not enabled so we still cant get CTS or Cloak of Burning dusk. When it is enabled ill change the list around appropriately.

[Plushylol]

Really good guide!!

I didn't go through all the replies so I'm not sure if you went on discussing the Imp vs Felguard thing. I agree that the 5% damage buff beats what the imp would give you but do you consider that the Imp does ALOT more dps itself especially talented right, while the felguard being bugged does just about nothing in dps. Now, I haven't really tested this by myself so hoping you would know better.

[Violinist]

Really good guide!!

I didn't go through all the replies so I'm not sure if you went on discussing the Imp vs Felguard thing. I agree that the 5% damage buff beats what the imp would give you but do you consider that the Imp does ALOT more dps itself especially talented right, while the felguard being bugged does just about nothing in dps. Now, I haven't really tested this by myself so hoping you would know better.

Except for that imp is bugged to and misses/runs out of mana. Felguard does decent enough dps. I've seen mine doing upwards of 2k on some fights. I have always done more dps using felguard

[Plushylol]

Except for that imp is bugged to and misses/runs out of mana. Felguard does decent enough dps. I've seen mine doing upwards of 2k on some fights. I have always done more dps using felguard

You're probably right on the misses, but it wouldn't run out of mana with the Mana feed talent...never did for me. Yeah I gotta check it out, last time I tested it did around 2.5k dps or something... just the whole pets physical damage scaling thing is bugged :/

[Blmaestro]

Felguard looks badass; imps look pathetic. I don't care about which one does more dps; the felguard empowers me whenever I play my lock and that's all that matters.

[Baelrog]

The Imp cant attack with phisical dmg ... when it is out of mana its just sitting at one place doing nothing ... if its going to the boss and hitting him with phisical dmg, that means the Imp's fight sistem is WRONG/BUGGED!

[DoodleBanger]

Two things quickly, someone may have already pointed this out but im saying it again.

You always use Felguard as you get a higher SP bonus from Demon Knowledge. And then this scales up again with demonic pact which goes off a higher SP so youre getting more DPS out of FG than imp.

Second thing,

Violinist, I noticed you dont have the Hyperspeed gloves enchant for engineers. Personally this is the BEST enchant possible for a lock. An extra 340 haste for about 1/4 minute each minute? Yes please! Since its on a 1 minute cooldown I would also reccommend macroing it to Demonic Empowerment as well since the CD is the same.

[Baelrog]

About the 2nd thing: Who said its the BEST?!

[Violinist]

Violinist, I noticed you dont have the Hyperspeed gloves enchant for engineers. Personally this is the BEST enchant possible for a lock. An extra 340 haste for about 1/4 minute each minute? Yes please! Since its on a 1 minute cooldown I would also reccommend macroing it to Demonic Empowerment as well since the CD is the same.

No its not... Look at demo priorities in F.A.Q

[BestMarine]

In my opinion Hyperspeed Accelerators is the best enchant we can have on gloves for own dps, by far.
Compare 28 sp with 68 haste (340*12/60).

Btw "spirit stacker non donor" is missing 38 hit ;)

[Violinist]

In my opinion Hyperspeed Accelerators is the best enchant we can have on gloves for own dps, by far.
Compare 28 sp with 68 haste (340*12/60).

Btw "spirit stacker non donor" is missing 38 hit ;)

The only thing is that with demo lock u should always be going for spell power. At bis gear, you dont need more haste an all the time from my experience spell power returns a better result.

The spirit stacker might be below the hit cap a bit just because losing a tiny bit of dps because of missing isn't that much of a deal when ur trying to give an OP buff.

[eber]

Btw "spirit stacker non donor" is missing 38 hit ;)

38 hit!!!! WHERE THE HELL CAN WE GET 38 HIT WITH EMPTY GEAR!!! IF ONLY THEY MADE ENCHANTS OR GEMS WITH HIT !!! oh wait...

Also, not sure where you're getting 38 from. I count 394 hit total, hard cap is 446 which is a difference of 52. However, the solution is the same, grab the icewalker enchant and a couple veiled ametrines to throw in the yellow sockets, tada! Even without those you are well within the soft cap with a spriest or boomkin in the raid, which only requires 368 hit.

You could also sacrifice some crit and get Petrified Ivy Sprig instead of Nightmare Ender, it actually has 1 sp more than nightmare ender (81 vs 80) if you put a sp gem in it.

The spirit stacker might be below the hit cap a bit just because losing a tiny bit of dps because of missing isn't that much of a deal when ur trying to give an OP buff.

While it's fine to be at a soft cap (with the soft cap requirements), missing with immolate or corruption costs more dps than you gain.

[Violinist]

38 hit!!!! WHERE THE HELL CAN WE GET 38 HIT WITH EMPTY GEAR!!! IF ONLY THEY MADE ENCHANTS OR GEMS WITH HIT !!! oh wait...

Also, not sure where you're getting 38 from. I count 394 hit total, hard cap is 446 which is a difference of 52. However, the solution is the same, grab the icewalker enchant and a couple veiled ametrines to throw in the yellow sockets, tada! Even without those you are well within the soft cap with a spriest or boomkin in the raid, which only requires 368 hit.

You could also sacrifice some crit and get Petrified Ivy Sprig instead of Nightmare Ender, it actually has 1 sp more than nightmare ender (81 vs 80) if you put a sp gem in it.


While it's fine to be at a soft cap (with the soft cap requirements), missing with immolate or corruption costs more dps than you gain.

Yes. none of the gear setups is meant to be at the hard cap simply because in any well structured raid, there is a spriest or smthing to give tht hit. So if you want to get to the hard cap then sure throw in some veiled ametrine. ill change the wand when i get the time

[BestMarine]

The spirit stacker might be below the hit cap a bit just because losing a tiny bit of dps because of missing isn't that much of a deal when ur trying to give an OP buff.

Hmm 1.5% miss is a lot. If you cant dps properly what is worth the buff you give to raid?!

38 hit!!!! WHERE THE HELL CAN WE GET 38 HIT WITH EMPTY GEAR!!! IF ONLY THEY MADE ENCHANTS OR GEMS WITH HIT !!! oh wait...

Also, not sure where you're getting 38 from. I count 394 hit total, hard cap is 446 which is a difference of 52. However, the solution is the same, grab the icewalker enchant and a couple veiled ametrines to throw in the yellow sockets, tada! Even without those you are well within the soft cap with a spriest or boomkin in the raid, which only requires 368 hit.

You could also sacrifice some crit and get Petrified Ivy Sprig instead of Nightmare Ender, it actually has 1 sp more than nightmare ender (81 vs 80) if you put a sp gem in it.


While it's fine to be at a soft cap (with the soft cap requirements), missing with immolate or corruption costs more dps than you gain.

I guess you need to recount the hit because it is 330. And obviously im talking about the soft cap of 14%, that is 368 hit. And those 38 hit, you get from valanar ring... Ah crap i just noticed, you are right, there are enchants and gems with hit -.-
I wrote about those 38hit because violinist has the other sets with some note about gemming hit sockets and none on this 1.

[TheWrecker]

hi there,

i have a question instead of dislodged and reign of dead can i use dislodged and charred (hc) ?:confused::confused::confused:

i mean can i use http://www.openwow.com/?item=54588 and http://www.openwow.com/?item=50353 instead of using http://www.openwow.com/?item=50353 and http://www.openwow.com/?item=47316?