Cataclysm [Guide] Combat Rogue PvE

[Praxis1]

Im wondering when Fangs of the father come out, will it be worth it going combat then ? If yes, would it be worth using 1.8 mainhand ?

[Griefel]

Im wondering when Fangs of the father come out, will it be worth it going combat then ? If yes, would it be worth using 1.8 mainhand ?

Read the bonuses of the weapons, unless they will not work, the daggers are bis for all specs.

[RyuIsaCookie]

Last time I checked Deathwing's heroic No'kaled was actually better than the last stage of the daggers. There was something about the slow build up of the agility stacks that mad the proc effect not so beneficial. Also the extra damage to Ss didnt really make up for the low weapon dmg being a dagger.

[Justicerr]

I've uploaded a demonstration video of Argaloth fight showing the potential of combat spec and mastery. You can include it in the main post if you'd like to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_tVuoCYTxs

PS: I hadn't played for some 3-4 months, waiting for 4.3... I logged in today to check if anything is fixed yet but I guess still everything is bugged and op.

[jatrix]

Im wondering when Fangs of the father come out, will it be worth it going combat then ? If yes, would it be worth using 1.8 mainhand ?

Dagger is overpowered!... I have the 2nd part set on my retail rogue... even in the 2nd you can feel its benefits...

[Seigfried]

I was a mastery stacking rogue before and neglected haste for vicious pvp gear with just mastery.
However my dps suffered because of the lack of haste and energy thereof.

So i wish to confirm that haste is of high importance for dps.

[Seigfried]

In the same manner, Agile Bio Optic killshades > Tsanga's Helm atleast for me only because of its itemisation.

[Griefel]

Hey wanted to add since there are alot of question on the matter, I have tested with some guildies and it seems the best trinket setup is atm Fluid Death and Tia's Grace.

I am next in line to get the shoulders from Chogall, and as soon as i get it i will test the 4pc tier set, and after that I will post a full bis list that u can add in the 1st post if you wish, and also some more info on stat weights with mastery's recalculated stat weight for molten.

[dominitian]

Hey wanted to add since there are alot of question on the matter, I have tested with some guildies and it seems the best trinket setup is atm Fluid Death and Tia's Grace.

I am next in line to get the shoulders from Chogall, and as soon as i get it i will test the 4pc tier set, and after that I will post a full bis list that u can add in the 1st post if you wish, and also some more info on stat weights with mastery's recalculated stat weight for molten.

about the trinkets that`s old news, and reffering to bis list i`m wondering if http://www.wowhead.com/item=65082 would be better than http://www.wowhead.com/item=68812 ... curently i have my doubts since it only gives +25 more agi but drops mastery and haste stats
the same thing could be said about T11 bonus i think

[RyuIsaCookie]

In some fights that have burst phase it`s actually better to use the tol'barad trinket, at least from personal experience thats the conclusion I`ve come to.
About the rings if you are well inside the hit cap (which isnt too hard to achieve) you can go for the hornet ring even though the ~20 agi lose since mastery and haste will more than make up for it.

[blicax]

ppl. its worth to smash 3 orbs and make http://www.wowhead.com/item=67602 ?? or.. there are better weapons to start raiding?

[Seigfried]

Griefel
Please check with some guildies whether the Alchemy trinket + Fluid Death is better than Tia's Grace and Fluid Death.

I wonder why that pair gives better results for me:-(

P.S Gz on 4p when u get it
P.P.S. Say hi to peeps of the Insane from me

[dominitian]

Griefel
Please check with some guildies whether the Alchemy trinket + Fluid Death is better than Tia's Grace and Fluid Death.

I wonder why that pair gives better results for me:-(

P.S Gz on 4p when u get it
P.P.S. Say hi to peeps of the Insane from me

I don`t get you guys sometimes it has been said many times and still some players have no idea what trinkets to use ... as a rogue atm there are only 3 trinkets that can maximize your dps or BiS slot trinkets, these are :
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58181
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62463
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56394
don`t use any other trinkets ! these are not hard to get

[Whatsy]

What about http://www.wowhead.com/item=56280 ?

I've seen some rogues use it, but I didn't test it myself. That's 10+ mastery on proc.

[dominitian]

Whats about http://www.wowhead.com/item=56280 ?

I've seen some rogues use it, but I didn't test it myself. That's 10+ mastery on proc.

what about it?