Cataclysm [Guide] Frost PvP

[Cybazaar]

I know and i share your pain, i am a DK myself.

EDIT: I tested Blood Strike and i confirm its damage is bugged, thus overpowered.
Note in mind that i am Frost DK.
My Blood Strike hits for ~5k without any diseases on the target and jumping to 10k with both diseases are on. Critting for 20k.
This damage is doubled from the diseases while it should be only 25% and BS should hit for 6250 instead of 10k.

[Heinzelwerfer]

Which meta gem should I socket with this build?

[Zeleik]

This is not the section to cry and b!tch about class bugs.
If you think something's wrong,provide proof and a source then report it in the bugtracker.
Afterwards you can post your report here => http://forum.molten-wow.com/showthread.php?t=169757

[Ornencho]

Very nice guide :)

[Blazemourne]

so frost is better than uh in terms of pvp and pve ? btw I have seen many dw frost pvp players than 2h isn't 2h better ?

[Placebo]

so frost is better than uh in terms of pvp and pve ? btw I have seen many dw frost pvp players than 2h isn't 2h better ?

I'll tell you from rogue perspective, unholy DK's are much worse to handle than frost ones and if you plan doing PvP go unholy. For PvE dunno, I think dw frost is better.

[Youseewhyx]

I'll tell you from rogue perspective, unholy DK's are much worse to handle than frost ones and if you plan doing PvP go unholy. For PvE dunno, I think dw frost is better.

Jk dispel frenzy ftw.

[Heinzelwerfer]

MaybeI overread it in the guide, but I don??t see any mentioning of spell penetration.
But I read somewhere that 130 spell penetration is essential in pvp for a dk.
What is the best way to get it, because I don??t see that stat on any of my pvp gear?

And another question, I??ve been doing 2vs2 arena??s with a friend, currently at 1500 rating.
At what rating does my weekly conquest cap get raised above 1650?

Also, is there a guide like this, but for unholy death knights?
I want to try different builds to see which works the best for me in pvp.
What would you guys say unholy has over frost and the other way around?
Thanks

[Davelan]

MaybeI overread it in the guide, but I don??t see any mentioning of spell penetration.
But I read somewhere that 130 spell penetration is essential in pvp for a dk.
What is the best way to get it, because I don??t see that stat on any of my pvp gear?

And another question, I??ve been doing 2vs2 arena??s with a friend, currently at 1500 rating.
At what rating does my weekly conquest cap get raised about 1650?

Also, is there a guide like this, but for unholy death knights?
I want to try different builds to see which works the best for me in pvp.
What would you guys say unholy has over frost and the other way around?
Thanks

The spell pen is a given and also mentioned in the comments bellow the main posts.

There is a notnewbie friendly uh Dk guide

[Kemii]

After reading everything and people taking this is a "noob" friendly version. It is not, as stated at the beginning it as made to help people adapt to the new changes from 4.0.6 to 4.3, therefore those who ha actually played the class before

When I get back from my holiday I will sit down, rewrite it, make it completely noob friendly and a thought guide to frost complete with 2-3 different specs and set ups.

[MajorDee]

frost is noob friendly.you will never get higher ratings with frost than unholy

read:full ruthless random bg and low mmr 2v2 guide

[Kemii]

frost is noob friendly.you will never get higher ratings with frost than unholy

read:full ruthless random bg and low mmr 2v2 guide

KK so thats why my old partners (on my paladin) were both frost and playing at 2.7k MMR.

Just because frost doenst work with a healer anymore doesnt mean they don't work in a double DPS comp, like Ret/Frost.

[Davelan]

frost is noob friendly.you will never get higher ratings with frost than unholy

read:full ruthless random bg and low mmr 2v2 guide

Mang, it's moh10 QQ arcane mages can probably get 2.2k

[Youseewhyx]

At it's current state I assume Frost is more viable then unholy in many situations.

[3azy]

Sorry for digging this back up but i didnt play for a year and im confused,im playing unholy atm (played frost on 4.0.6) and im seeing many frost dks but rarely any unholy dks. Is frost still "i pop all cooldowns and global you" or is it nerfed to the ground and unholy is superior in all ways?