Cataclysm [Guide] Frost PvP

[Kemii]

Noob dk here ; why no obliterate , and would I lose much if I went for dual wield instead?

Don't use Oblitorate until you have full understand of your class, how it works and when to use it correctly.

Also don't DW. DW damage is overall lower from Necro (yh 2h is not exciting but its damage + huge absorb on the target).

[wodflames]

So if I have 2x soul drainers, and Bone-link trink, Dw would be a possible more viable option? - Just wondering, about to get back into playing and thinking frost dk was always my favorite thing to play because of duel wielding I would just hate to be ineffective to a point its worthless to play the class lol. :cool: :cool: :cool:

[niqz]

by taking 2 pve weapons (even tho they might heal you) and pve trink, you are losing too much resil imo. i hate to be "that guy" but you might find yourself dead before you even reach target to actually benefit from weapon procs (provided weapons are even working)

[Davelan]

by taking 2 pve weapons (even tho they might heal you) and pve trink, you are losing too much resil imo. i hate to be "that guy" but you might find yourself dead before you even reach target to actually benefit from weapon procs (provided weapons are even working)

They're working. But you're right o.o bonelink+2 souldrinkers isnt a good idea, too much resil lost for a frost dk. Remember, frost DKs are squishy now. I personally prefer to go full resil gear.

[Kemii]

Frost really Need to be in FULL PvP gear.
You lack all the survivability, your practically a fire mage without the mobility.

Keep your nice donor gear for PvE.. But go full PvP for PvPing.

[TheCore]

100% what Toshika said.

As frost, go for maximum resilience.

[Kemii]

Edited with updates to Glyphs and a new link to a 4.3 Talent Calculator.

Working on adding a DW, 2h Oblit and a PVE section.

[bosanchero]

I need help. Im playin 2h frost atm and i want to switch to dw masterfrost. The problem is that i get runestarved a lot and have 3 or 4 secs without any runes. I dont have that issue with 2h cause its kinda in a sweet spot. Runes generate in 8.3 secs and i have enough time to get them back. But what to do with dw to not get starved that much? I reforge all into mastery. The trouble is also that have full alchemy and lvling herbalism on that dk because i only have a warrior on lvl 85 that im gearing. I know i can add some stats with eng and bs but thatl will have to wait for now.

By the way, all armor and weapon are cata gear, other parts are ruthless but one pve rtinket.

[Kemii]

Main issues with DW is that you do find yourself rune starved.

It's not as noticible as 2h due to Might of the Frozen Waste - chance to get 10 RP from auto attacks with 2h weapons.

DW don't get this, less runic power gains, less Frost strikes, less Runic Empowerment procs.

[bosanchero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbUQgSODdXo

Im not gona argue is this guy a good dk or not im just curious what does he do to keep his rotation up all the time. We had almost identical rune speed 8.7 secs, i get rune starved all the time he doesnt.
Can someone explain?

[mihai21ro]

Nice guide, but can you please add a basic rotation?

[Kemii]

Nice guide, but can you please add a basic rotation?

There is no rotation in PvP. Sorry but no.

[Turbolqk]

Try out 2xSouldrinkers, but go full PvP gear + full resi gems and enchants (loooots of resi).
Use these talents:
http://freecode.hu/wowtal/eng/?DK#03302.15-323012222301122103012.19-!12,7,22,27,11,18,25,28,0

Dumb the DC minor, it wont help you. DC main glyph will heal you 15% more, so get it!

[Ninjapwnage]

very helpful guide :)

[Macross]

There is somthing rong with Spell pene? cuz i notice a susbtantial decrease on my hungering cold crits...before was like 20k evey crit, now only crits for 8k or something like that, anyone else notice the same?