Today i met a 127k hp enh shaman in tol barad,who was critting 40k on my 4.3k resi while me(sub rogue) using potion of tol vir+2k agi badge was hitting 20-25k ambush crits.Just asking if it's normal or not
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Is enh shaman a bit op?...
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enhancement shamans have 1 single hard hitting attack - and that is on a 10 second cooldown plus it requires a firetotem to hit you 5 times to really do much damage. you cannot simply compare the numbers of 2 totally different abilitys and try to conclude anything based on that. thats just as pointless as comparing pyroblast to hemorrhage or execute to eviscerate.. :P
[edit] and yes, melee shamans hit hard as fukk. thats what you would expect of a non-stun based melee class when you let it hit you (same with warriors). fighting both thus works by the same basics; controll them, dont get into a brawl.
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Oh dear lord, finally someone thinks sober instead of OMGOMGOMG 50k crit. ten seconds people for 10 sec rogue could do 3x25k ambush or backstab which is more damage, lets not talk about paladins who can zerg around with 60k TV crits every 4sec for 20sec i think, Zealotry? yet people QQ on shamans who hit hard once every 10 sec...
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That's the problem with people who qq, they only see that one damage, they don't count together the damage, what other classes can do within like 10 seconds. It's easier to qq about one high crit.
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well he wasnt really QQ'ing.. dont get all bumped up now :P
actually he was:
and the answer to that is simply yes it is + yes it isnt really op, because of the restrictions that this attack has :P
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yes. for the shaman : he need to have flametongue weapon on offhand active, SLOW offhand weapon (daggers wont do much damage), have to get into melee range, have lavalash glyphed, (possibly) 2-set tier 12 (fireland) armors, and the target must be hit by searing totem 5 times in the last 10 seconds before the damage can crit for that much.
and on 10 second cooldown. And shamans have no stun ability. And hitting lavalash will consume all searing totem stacks on target.
Pretty good limitations for a good amount of damage, dont you think? Think of it as full-combo-point finishers, only the combo points generated from low-damage totems, not from good damage ability like rogues.
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Just to ask if they are not so op how they kill 5k resil paladin with 160k life in 4sec?! Where is the dmg coming from?
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just like rogues kill 20k resil blood DK in 200 milliseconds with only autoattacks - HOWS THAT NO OP?
see what i did there? not true? neither is yours. come up with some serious backup for your claims.. until then:
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Like anyone in their right mind would sit and let us burst for our whole 20 seconds. LOL Against a pro pvp player, we might only get 1 TV in and possibly a Hammer of Wrath, depending on the class we're facing.
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Hi,first off all molten forum is full of qq threads,towards some classes.I myself are playing multiple classes on some decent skill. 2,4k +(rogue,feral,ret).All classes that people say they are OP,but non of those classes in full cata gear 4,8k+ resi. don't do so much burst damage as Enh. Shamans in Ruthles,even Vicious gear.And i got some DS 25 HC items myself .IT.s just not normal damage for that ilvl.Few days a go Shaman in Vicious gear with 2 DS HC axes and Bone -link trinket, got me on 40% in 1 winddfury proc. Really?? More than 50% on caped resilience toon in 2 seconds?So people who say it's not Op,are just don't know anything about this game,or just defending class that is clearly bugged.
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enh can one shot.. and that was even in retail..... our mastery scales whit no'kaled.. like wow!!! so get over it... And i dont hear people qq about a shatterarcane mage.. that crits 100k + 150k whit serk buff... cause thats normal to.
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Like anyone on their mind would let us get X5 Searing totem stacks, we can get x2 or x3 depending on the class and if the guy is good. :D
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-Totems apply a 15 second de-buff (I believe) every single second.
-The De-buff cannot be dispelled by any dps other than shadow priest. Even then, it takes 5 GCDs to clean it.
-The totems need to be manually targeted, no macros can target them for us.
-Shamans can place searing totem on a GCD.
You may want to re-consider your argument that the totem is practically counter-able, because it speaks volumes to the type of player who would gravitate toward that class. There's a similar situation to the players who play a blood death knight and duel nothing but warriors.
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the searing totem hits 5 times roughly the same as lava lash cooldown, so roughly 2 seconds per hit? Maybe a bit less or more, 1.8 s or 2.2 sec per hit?
And I dont know about you but i think any shaman purge can dispell the stacks. But was it resto shaman or dps shaman... I dont remember. Still, you can just run from shamans, u know? they got no stun spell and no leaping spell, and searing only target one person :s
but I guess meh. Haters will hate.
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qq more jugger. it's extreme fun to read your qq on classes - which you aint know s*it about :)
Censure deals 11k critical ticks, and you're still here ? how pathetic.
dear warsong players - please - teach this guy how-to play, and how does other classes work, rather than his **** paladin and warrior.
forever skillstorm newbie.
somehow .. my druid (resto) .. neither my warlock experiences problems with "OP" enha, while im getting literally globaled by rets once in los.
what a tryhard noob. skillstorm ends. jugger dies. qq more plz.
6 seconds is enough to deal with 4.5k resil rdruid and 4.8k resil dc priest.Like anyone in their right mind would sit and let us burst for our whole 20 seconds
i love to die in a single opener within 2 globals from a rogues, who's requiers what ? poping everything - and doing 3 stabs ? than vanish = gg ?
warriors too nerfed. molten plz buff asap.
OP af.
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