What does Sargeras need?

[Kemii]

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what ? they really are ?

You honestly thought they were going to jump straight into SOO (T16/S14)?
And make us farm that for the next 3+ years?

As for your DK comment, it's invalid. Been a DK since 5.2, Love my DK, wouldn't change my DK for the world. Still an awesome class, Love is Love and no matter how ****ty something gets you still play it because thats your life.

[-Notorious-]

Considering Molten are going for Progression, DKs are going to have a great start for the first year or so, they only go downhill in 5.2 (T16/S14).

I was referring with respect to arenas/bgs. Dk's in 5.4.8 are one of the (the most? Can't remember) represented class. The reason I mentioned this, was because some people claim that people shouldn't play Ret Pallies simply because they are bugged. Or they go on to claim how all ret pallies suck because of said bugs.

My point to Ily was; its not Wellsqt's fault, or any Ret Pally's fault that their class is bugged.

[Kemii]

I was referring with respect to arenas/bgs. Dk's in 5.4.8 are one of the (the most? Can't remember) represented class. The reason I mentioned this, was because some people claim that people shouldn't play Ret Pallies simply because they are bugged. Or they go on to claim how all ret pallies suck because of said bugs.

My point to Ily was; its not Wellsqt's fault, or any Ret Pally's fault that their class is bugged.

Very aware that ret sucks, I rerolled Holy, even though I'm half prideful as ret. Its juust so lacklustre that I'd rather just heal :/

[Critocalypse]

You honestly thought they were going to jump straight into SOO (T16/S14)?
And make us farm that for the next 3+ years?

As for your DK comment, it's invalid. Been a DK since 5.2, Love my DK, wouldn't change my DK for the world. Still an awesome class, Love is Love and no matter how ****ty something gets you still play it because thats your life.

so what exactly was invalid about what i wrote about dks ?

only because you like the class does not mean that i am wrong, that is pretty ignorant from you.

you play dk since 5.2 wow... how cute...

[Kemii]

so what exactly was invalid about what i wrote about dks ?

only because you like the class does not mean that i am wrong, that is pretty ignorant from you.

also i am playing dk since firelands on retail so yea up yours with your "i play since 5.2"

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...88sto/advanced

I was talking about MOP, I wasn't there for 5.0-5.1.
I know exactly how DKs perform, you make it sound like I'm clueless. I know the numbers,

You forgot you were talking to Ilyanah, the only class she plays is a DK. You could tell her that DKs only do white damage and she'd still play it.

Allow me to quote what you said..

well lets just say if you are a dk you wont be happy

Indeed... I invalidated it.

[Critocalypse]

I was talking about MOP, I wasn't there for 5.0-5.1.
I know exactly how DKs perform, you make it sound like I'm clueless. I know the numbers,

You forgot you were talking to Ilyanah, the only class she plays is a DK. You could tell her that DKs only do white damage and she'd still play it.

Allow me to quote what you said..


Indeed... I invalidated it.

and exactly because you are not ilyanah i did not assume that you speak for him/her but rather that you try to tell people here that dk balance was fine inbetween tot hc and soo hc ilvlranges

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btw how does one go about finding groups for normal rdf... like im queueing solo but after 4 runs and everytime having 2-3 of these brotherhood guys in my group i kinda lost the motivation to queue solo any longer -.-

[ilyanah]

Who says Sargeras is going MoP l0l but yeah could you carry me to r1 in 5s @ MoP pls

Oh, Sargeras will turn MoP in just a matter of time. People are already demanding that Sargeras to turn MoP so your days being an arrogant Ret are numbered. When MoP launches, I won't be in Sargeras anymore. Oh I can carry you in any bracket not just 5s. All teams I made with random ppl got me passed 2200 rating everytime. And you're also Jelly about that 5s win? I should have kicked you out of WoHL long ago.

Given the bugs to win idea, what would you have ret pallies do? Not play their characters? Is this what you did when DK's had positive bugs?

Besides, MoP is just as bad for dk as it is for ret pallies, so that will be interesting :)

No, they should not be arrogant about it. Being arrogant with a positively bugged class makes me want to facepalm. Yes back in 4.0.6 DKs were "overpowered" just because of the haste but it doesn't make any difference (damage wise). I have full elite gear back in 4.0.6 that's why I steamroll everyone back then. Death Knights aren't bad in MoP. In fact I see a lot of overpowered skill combos that I could use to kill a target within seconds. Soul Reaper, Conversion, 30 sec Stun FTW. And imagine all our presence has 1.0 GCD. I could stay in Blood Presence or Frost to deal more damage. DKs are the most bugged to **** class right now but look at me, I still make DKs OP. In MoP, PvE items won't work in PvP that's why a lot of you wouldn't like MoP.

and exactly because you are not ilyanah i did not assume that you speak for him/her but rather that you try to tell people here that dk balance was fine inbetween tot hc and soo hc ilvlranges

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btw how does one go about finding groups for normal rdf... like im queueing solo but after 4 runs and everytime having 2-3 of these brotherhood guys in my group i kinda lost the motivation to queue solo any longer -.-

I am not a fan of PvE. I would gladly pass the loot whenever I get a good item in SoO or whatever. They wouldn't work in PvP. I'm not bragging, just saying why would I need PvE items for PvP if they won't even work.

[-Notorious-]

Oh, Sargeras will turn MoP in just a matter of time. People are already demanding that Sargeras to turn MoP so your days being an arrogant Ret are numbered. When MoP launches, I won't be in Sargeras anymore. Oh I can carry you in any bracket not just 5s. All teams I made with random ppl got me passed 2200 rating everytime. And you're also Jelly about that 5s win? I should have kicked you out of WoHL long ago.



No, they should not be arrogant about it. Being arrogant with a positively bugged class makes me want to facepalm. Yes back in 4.0.6 DKs were "overpowered" just because of the haste but it doesn't make any difference (damage wise). I have full elite gear back in 4.0.6 that's why I steamroll everyone back then. Death Knights aren't bad in MoP. In fact I see a lot of overpowered skill combos that I could use to kill a target within seconds. Soul Reaper, Conversion, 30 sec Stun FTW. And imagine all our presence has 1.0 GCD. I could stay in Blood Presence or Frost to deal more damage. DKs are the most bugged to **** class right now but look at me, I still make DKs OP. In MoP, PvE items won't work in PvP that's why a lot of you wouldn't like MoP.



I am not a fan of PvE. I would gladly pass the loot whenever I get a good item in SoO or whatever. They wouldn't work in PvP. I'm not bragging, just saying why would I need PvE items for PvP if they won't even work.

Sargeras won't go MoP, transfers will eventually be allowed. Molten staff has been clear about this in numerous posts.

How does a haste bug not effect damage? By that logic, having 100% critical chance does not increase damage? Were you arrogant when DK's were bugged, or did you tell everyone how sorry you were for playing an op class? All the retri. pallies have full cata gear now too, that is why they steam roll everyone. Of course the bugs are helping, they helped you too I'm sure...

I was just stating facts, and the fact is DK's are one of the least represented class on retail in 3v3 atm (the only arena bracket that matters). Why would I care what class is op and isn't, my point is that people shouldn't tell others to act differently based on what class they play, that is stupid. Bugs exist, its a private server, the sun is hot; these are just things we live with...

Don't use PvE items? http://armory.molten-wow.com/character-profile/Ilyanah/Sargeras/ Gurth must be from that 5v5 rating, right? Why would you do SoO if you're going to pass on PvE items... How would you even get to SoO without PvE items, if you intend on using PvP items?

Yes PvE items suck for PvP in MoP, but I don't see why you keep mentioning it to us? We all got our pve items from marketplace, and people will just get PvP items from marketplace as well if they want to, so no idea why you keep bringing it up...

I am more confused after reading your post than leaving any of my Math lectures...

You explain how DK's had a haste bug, but that didn't affect damage output. Then you explain how players playing positively bugged classes shouldn't be arrogant. You then tell us how pve items will be useless, like this is some new information for an expansion that has been out for about a year now. And lastly, you tell us that you would pass on any PvE item that drops in an end-game raid...

[-Notorious-]

and exactly because you are not ilyanah i did not assume that you speak for him/her but rather that you try to tell people here that dk balance was fine inbetween tot hc and soo hc ilvlranges

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btw how does one go about finding groups for normal rdf... like im queueing solo but after 4 runs and everytime having 2-3 of these brotherhood guys in my group i kinda lost the motivation to queue solo any longer -.-

Have you tried searching through global? Most groups are made there, but all ask for high ilvl requirements...

[ilyanah]

hahaha. very funny notorious. you compare and defend ret pally's gurth procs against dk haste bug ? gimme a break notorious.

[-Notorious-]

hahaha. very funny notorious. you compare and defend ret pally's gurth procs against dk haste bug ? gimme a break notorious.

I don't have a pally, and have been killed by just as many tents as you have. I will never cry a river about them though, as we play on a private server.

Good players will be good players, don't try to take that away from them because they have bugs.

[ilyanah]

I don't have a pally, and have been killed by just as many tents as you have. I will never cry a river about them though, as we play on a private server.

Good players will be good players, don't try to take that away from them because they have bugs.

so you call noobs rerolling enh shamans and gurth rets good players? i know wellsqt is a great paladin since he was in wohl but i didn't expect him to be so arrogant. probably a new owner.

[-Notorious-]

so you call noobs rerolling enh shamans and gurth rets good players? i know wellsqt is a great paladin since he was in wohl but i didn't expect him to be so arrogant. probably a new owner.

Do you die to every enh shaman and gurth ret?

[Critocalypse]

I am not a fan of PvE. I would gladly pass the loot whenever I get a good item in SoO or whatever. They wouldn't work in PvP. I'm not bragging, just saying why would I need PvE items for PvP if they won't even work.

if you have the slightest interest in openworld pvp (what is semi enforced through the new "daily islands") you will have a hard time there seeing that pvp items during mop are like always nearly 40ilvl under pve items but then again... here on sargeras it probably wont matter since people here play really really bad from what ive seen so far

[ilyanah]

odepends, if its a skilled enhancement shaman i have a great chance of winning. but if it's a skilled gurth ret. no chance. they fear my pets,, wog to full hp and summons 3 tentacles at once. but if you make him use all pvp items in slot then i have a chance.