My hopes keep on being crushed.
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Yeap. Old school players like me (5 years, since 2010) and ppl that have bought Shadowmourne before should get a good discount.
For the new players there should be some requirement, like a amount of play time or something.
Thats sounds fair for everyone, and that was how Molten did it before.
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You have 5 months (iirc) to recover your account. And the coins will reset after 45 days from the day you recover the account.
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At end, they ll be smart guyz, and we others who recover, play and support will finish as fools.... rly nice...
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I understand Molten being loyal to old members. But creating this divide by giving older accounts a cheaper Shadowmourne is just ridiculous. It's as if they are trying to discourage new players..
Can any staff member consider this:
Why would I want to play or donate on a server where players can cheaply purchase the penultimate PvP and PvE item... where I am not allowed (or restricted by a larger price)?
Simply making it available to previous owners at a cheap price is actually an incredibly stupid financial decision..
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I love when people state things like this with no solid argument or reason. Why is it an "incredibly stupid financial decision"? Obviously people who cant get smourne now will donate for it later. You honestly believe people will quit the game because they have to wait a little longer to get the weapon. I had shadowmourne, yes i paid for it with coins, not gift coins, not refund coins, etc, i put in the played time to be able to purchase it etc. Why should some random guy who got 50 free coins + boatloads of holiday coins (all free) never putting a character through the requirements for the weapon with /played time, have the same weapon as me when he never had it before? Explain how its fair to people who donated specifically for shadowmourne? I think the current system is fair. The molt down was a tragedy that struck us all, and the molten team trying their best to RESTORE our characters to what they were before. Did you have shadowmourne before? Probably not hence the qq. Making shadowmourne avaliable to everyone right from the start would be a terrible choice for molten and anyone with a brain. Why? Well if you are too naive to understand and your thoughts are clouded by ORANGE WEPEN heres a few reasons i can think of myself:
1: Everyone who plays dk/pala/warrior wants shadowmourne - and in case you haven't noticed, a high percentage of the server is currently retri paladins. People will buy it regardless.
2. If molten allows access to sm for everyone now, there will be more smourne than before with all these people like yourself qqing that they been member since 2010 and cant get smourne wah wah wah etc.... every single account will have one because a lot of people took advantage of this wipe and made a new class such as warrior/pala/dk in hopes of getting sm char.
3. There is no profit gain if molten enable sm now for everyone, for old players its fair because they had it before, but all the rest of the ppl who didn't have it before will for sure donate later to get it once donations are enabled and its available for them on the marketplace.
4. I don't know what everyone is so mad about??? If you didn't have sm before the server wiped and all the sudden now you deserve to have one ... why??? I don't understand this logic????
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Hmm.. this thread is all about shadowmournes.
There's hardly a word toward valanyrs besides the initial post mentioning legendaries in general.
A rather delicate issue, involving business model and consumer satisfaction, and with the current method i believe you're making the best decision.
personally i had planned to distribute valanyrs to most the healers in the guild. then i came to find out most had already portioned away funds for them. soo on top of the five or so i wanted to give out, there were already folks waiting to spring at them anew with collected coins from being here for year after year, donating and/or getting gifts.
My mind awash with the idea of LKHC attempts with 100% of healers using valanyr, i noticed hesitation on the part of staff to release legendaries and then this news..
while -slightly- heartbreaking.. i can understand why such a decision would be made.
although, i do hope there might be a change so any purchase(s) of valanyr or shadowmourne on a WOTLK realm would open that number of legendary purchase slots, for folks who may have gone with another class role after the moltdown.
besides that, ill just mention that.. yeah. i did buy two mournes pre-moltdown.. and previously anyone else that did either saved those coins over a number of years/months, was gifted a lump sum or received one of the bonanza! new year's gifts. it's a bit selfish to want to use those multiple NYE gifts (which were not meant for legendary purchases, or you'd have gotten 150 coins every NYE.) for legendary purchases which do indeed drive donations.
thanks, however ya handle it.
It's nice to have the option to re-purchase legendaries with refunded coins.
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No. I believe they will quit because of how unfair it is that some players can purchase the best item in the 3.3.5a patch whereas others might have to pay considerably more or be denied the option of acquiring it at all.
I'm just saying many new players will think twice before investing in a server where there is a small group of players that gets exclusive advantages. Especially considering this group is closed off to them (time played).
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Molten isn't, nor should they be, trying to restore peoples characters to what they were before. The unfortunate moltdown is a chance to freshen up the server by starting things over.
The existing players received thank you's for previous playing by getting more free levelups, gold, and professions than new accounts. But they are by no means trying to restore old characters to their former glory.
This is a new round for the game. Because there are not thousands of people wielding BS lolmournes and having rediculous end-game gear-scores that is bringing in new players, and giving us older players a chance to play the game up again.
Quite frankly there is nothing worse than an old dying server that has 50,000 fully completed characters at max gear score. Or rather 50,000 accounts with 10 maxed out characters each, with all the professions maxed. Why would a new player play there?
These unplanned re-boots of things are healthy for game servers (as they always have been) and as long as they do not ruin this by giving more bonus to the old members, all will be well. However if they do give any more preference to old members, there is no reason to start playing here. Sorry, its just the way it is.
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Amen!!! :*
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See this is what confuses me. If they start handing out Shadowmournes to previous donators.. what's to stop people arguing for the replacement of everything other item/achievement etc. they obtained?
It's pity hypocritical to hand out booster packs to people that might have lost 10 BiS fullly geared characters, but be more than willing to requip Smourne donors.
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I still dont get it... Everyone lost something... Just know that what ever Molten does will never be near to what we had AND also remember that Molten is doing its best.
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According to the last data that molten has/was able to save ( web-thingy). Its only fair that only those people who bought Legendaries through coins get it for the same price. For those of you who have coins now but never had legendaries b4. Why the fuq are you QQ'ing now.? "Simple logic.. you didn't have it before... you wont have it now with the refunded coins... ". I can understand those rare "Elite raiders" who got maybe SM through LK 25HC but sadly molten wont be able to give those back, SS are not enough proof). but for you people who want to have SM now and who never had SM before wipe.. follow the new requirements that molten states .
Just compare yourself with those who never donated but was bis/near bis and had **** loads of gold/ achievements.. what did they get-- 10-50 coins + a few VP's. Most are satisfied and are not complaining coz they know nothing can be done now.. At least you donors are getting every coin you spent before... so STFU and stop QQ'ing about everything.. The servers and the past things ( your achievements, etc ) are never going to be the same.. maybe it will take time to get it done... maybe we may come near to what we were before, maybe not...
Remember .... someone is funding this whole thing out of his personal funds... Try to make the best of it, help in what ever way you can, if you don't like it and if you feel that what molten doing is not good enough.. Then you'r welcome to go to a different server, just don't act like a *****.
P.S. to all those new accounts who started to play here after moltendown. {not from AT :) } Even if there was no Moltdown.. You'd still be a fresh level 1 - 80 , undergeared, with no gold, no nothing.. against 85% of people who already has gold, achieves, gear.. so please.. enjoy playing on molten atm.. when you have an equal chance to get geared.. etc to atleast 50% of the players here.
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They are handing out legendaries to those who had bought it before .. simply because they were able to save some data on molten website... if they were not able to save that data.. then most probably this wouldn't happen at all... its according to what data they were able to save that time.. ..im sure if molten was able to save/make a backup of every thing .. you wouldn't be complaining now. But thats what they were able to save .. so deal with it.. please.
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As someone who plays Warr and DK main and had Smourne before, I hope it does not get reintroduced. Since I know it probably will, what I'd really like is what AT did, where the proc does not trigger off PvP combat. The stats are still better than Glor, by the equivalent of maybe 7 item levels, but then it's not OP. I don't get why this isn't the go-to solution.
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That is an excellent idea. The proc should never proc off of PvP. The main problem with letting chumps buy SM is PvP. Lets just take PvP out of the equation and call it good. Genius.
