you know what variety means?

[vicoturrito]

Sup, i want to say something about MoP PvP situation (Frostwolf) mostly (2s, 3s)

I reach 2.2k last saturday as Shadow/Fire in 2s, but now its impossible to get higher when we are facing the same 3 comps every single day War/Sham War/Dudu Lock/Sham, and im not even joking, i have SS that we played 22 games in a round vs these comps, first 15 vs War/Shaman (only the same team twice) and 6 vs Lock/Sham (2 teams, 3-3)
Idk what you think about that, maybe its normal for you here in Molten, but for me, i think its kinda sad.

I mean cmon, i know these comps are ****ing OP since 5.1 and you counter almost everything, but you can choose 11 classes to play. Not even in retail that happened to me, ofc you face wars comps, but 2-3 in 10 games, here is a 10-10 joke lol.
Now the question is, a non-war/sham comps cant get 2.2+ or the entirely season is playing as war/sham?

I know im not the best, and im not a hardcore player, i dont want to be R1 n'shiit, but i want to have some fun playing some games with buddies and go for some decent rating, ofc we cant when we lose 90% of the time vs the same counter team (even worst with the Shadow/Fire bugs but not a big deal) i just want to see some diversity

There's a lot of decent comp that can easily get 2.7+

for example:

Priest/hunter
Mage/rogue
Retry/Hunter
Feral/Monk
Priest/Rogue
Mage/Priest
Feral/Hunter
War/Pala(H)
Lock/Mage

and i didn't face one of these comps even once after 2k

I just hope you change your fotm mind and try to add some diversity to the arena matches


cya

[AntiWarrWrecker]

Like I mentioned once.high rated arena or even 2k +ratting arena is pretty dead.In my modest opinion MoP is pretty much done,However,if you want to be bored by facing the same combos 7/24 be my guest....

Warr + healer is the only combo left in game,considering high rated arena,even though other classes got few bugs more,they are unviable and that's sad.

Also i might be wrong about other combos being unviable because of bugs,there might not be the will or even guts to fight warrior and healer team,which is completely understandble considering the possible result of the match.Plus,if certain combo can't stand a chance or even fights with uncompetitive gear and strategy versus warr+heal combo there is no point to proceed with rating-hunt.

[badwolf111]

well you could use skill and play any comp or go with bugged class (dem 70k+ bleeds and op selfheal) and faceroll high rate ... you see the point :>

someday someone will fix warr damage and they will magicaly dissaper

[thepsynergist]

Did you confirm whether or not you were fighting the same team, over and over?

[Torcida1950]

There are 2 other tings nobody mentions:

1. All private servers upon releasing new gear are unbalanced for few months because of donors. I'm not complaining about this, they pay so everyone can play, but it's a fact that PVP is unbalanced for quite some time. No matter how good you are, if u facing a decent player with full Grievous and u have more than half or about a half Tyrannical, u don't have a chance. Gap between 2 gear sets is just huge.

2. There is so many cheaters on Warmane that is becoming unplayable. And i have a feeling that over past 3 weeks amount just doubled if not tripled. I mean, just yesterday, on average, in 4-6 out of 10 games I was facing cheaters.
Most common ones are the ones that raise speed only by bit, which is not easy to notice for inexperienced players, but makes huge advantage.
Theyn there are GCD hackers. I don't know how they do it, cause GCD should be handled server side, but I've seen ppl with no CDs on their stuns or any other spells. I've seen warriors with infinite number of fears (like they are Locks), Mages that can poly me and my partner at the same time, and repeat it as much as needed. I also saw ppl which our stuns don't even scratch - AT ALL. I've seen my combat logs where 1 player hit me with 10-15 spells in 2 sec. Almost like one-shot kill. It is becoming so frustrating.

I used to record and report them, but there are so many that I just don't have the time or will to do so any more. Someone used to complain that some class fixes are game braking, well... they are nothing comparing to hackers.

[AntiWarrWrecker]

well you could use skill and play any comp or go with bugged class (dem 70k+ bleeds and op selfheal) and faceroll high rate ... you see the point :>

someday someone will fix warr damage and they will magicaly dissaper

Firstly,warrior is the class with the most bug fix progression. (Bleeds are a bit bugged,nothing serious,eventually spell reflect)
Secondly,The warrior as the class is scripted to be Overpowered,it's just strong,that's it ...The same was on retail,just face the fact that Warriors are the favourite/one of the strongest classes in this Expansion called Mists of Pandaria or simply move to another expansion. Lmao

[AntiWarrWrecker]

There are 2 other tings nobody mentions:

1. All private servers upon releasing new gear are unbalanced for few months because of donors. I'm not complaining about this, they pay so everyone can play, but it's a fact that PVP is unbalanced for quite some time. No matter how good you are, if u facing a decent player with full Grievous and u have more than half or about a half Tyrannical, u don't have a chance. Gap between 2 gear sets is just huge.

2. There is so many cheaters on Warmane that is becoming unplayable. And i have a feeling that over past 3 weeks amount just doubled if not tripled. I mean, just yesterday, on average, in 4-6 out of 10 games I was facing cheaters.
Most common ones are the ones that raise speed only by bit, which is not easy to notice for inexperienced players, but makes huge advantage.
Theyn there are GCD hackers. I don't know how they do it, cause GCD should be handled server side, but I've seen ppl with no CDs on their stuns or any other spells. I've seen warriors with infinite number of fears (like they are Locks), Mages that can poly me and my partner at the same time, and repeat it as much as needed. I also saw ppl which our stuns don't even scratch - AT ALL. I've seen my combat logs where 1 player hit me with 10-15 spells in 2 sec. Almost like one-shot kill. It is becoming so frustrating.

I used to record and report them, but there are so many that I just don't have the time or will to do so any more. Someone used to complain that some class fixes are game braking, well... they are nothing comparing to hackers.

I do agree with you.Cheaters/Bot users are game breaking for Warmane,way worse than gear difference/inbalance and few bugs .

[badwolf111]

eventually spell reflect...
http://i.imgur.com/nGfBvtU.jpg
yes very eventually
bleeds - try to find a vid with 60-70k bleed crits i dare you. most of what i seen was 40k in pridefull gear...
and yes they are top on this patch but not as much as now its not blizz lvl of op its bugged op

[Ph4ra0h]

eventually spell reflect...
http://i.imgur.com/nGfBvtU.jpg
yes very eventually
bleeds - try to find a vid with 60-70k bleed crits i dare you. most of what i seen was 40k in pridefull gear...
and yes they are top on this patch but not as much as now its not blizz lvl of op its bugged op

Hate to break it to you but that screenshot you linked, with many spell reflects is from retail. :D

[thepsynergist]

Hate to break it to you but that screenshot you linked, with many spell reflects is from retail. :D

Since when can't you use custom UI's on private WoW servers?

[Lendjr]

Im getting frustrated by this too. As feral/priest combo we have absolutely no chance to get higher because priest just cant survive against those broken burst combos and as feral i cant help him against those warrios. Typhoone doesnt work on lolstorm and if iget any closer he gets me to 20% health in few secs. Also symbiosis is broken so my priest cant cyclone which is a big loss for that combo too. I mean ... damn when 1 warrior manages to kill my priest through her full dmg reduction buffs in 3 secs then i think smth is wrong. D: If warmane doesnt start fixing real problems im thinking about leaving this server for real this time. D:

[AntiWarrWrecker]

So you nerds wanna say that warrior is actually strong only because of bleeds and spell reflect? Indeed you are noobs than,i am out of here loosers,warrior is op in this expansion bugged or not ,your decision is to learn to play and own them or just forfeit/quit. lol/facepalm




P.S. The worse part is that you count 60-70k bleeds in bg with all the buff stacking.Bleeds arena do 35k-45k crits tested by myself and confirmed by others.

[Hayder]

Yeah Warmane variety of comps in 2s is pretty funny. Last week cap we had 31. games streak of warr/insert random heal comp at ~2k2 mmr with different alts.
I'm not either a super serious tryhard but the variety is just so funny. But it doesn't tell you that you can't get higher with comp what doesn't require warrior,lock,random healer.
At the moment I have sub/hunt at 2k3 mmr, hunt/ret at 2k4, frost mage/fdk at 2k just by capping weekly.

So you nerds wanna say that warrior is actually strong only because of bleeds and spell reflect? Indeed you are noobs than,i am out of here loosers,warrior is op in this expansion bugged or not ,your decision is to learn to play and own them or just forfeit/quit. lol/facepalm

I see that you're usual warrior player, defending own class and blaming others only. Perma 8 reflect if specced to Mass Reflect, Storm Bolt going going through Deterrence, mentally bugged DWs carrying warriors like you so hard. That's true, warrior is hella strong through whole MoP, but defending your own class bugs what are way more than just positive bugs and calling that l2p is only option or reroll. Grow up and try another class and you might be surprised.

[Ph4ra0h]

Since when can't you use custom UI's on private WoW servers?

Wat? Where did I mention custom UIs? That is a screenshot from one of Bajheera's videos, that's why it has a black rectangle at the bottom left where his cam is while streaming.

[AntiWarrWrecker]

Yeah Warmane variety of comps in 2s is pretty funny. Last week cap we had 31. games streak of warr/insert random heal comp at ~2k2 mmr with different alts.
I'm not either a super serious tryhard but the variety is just so funny. But it doesn't tell you that you can't get higher with comp what doesn't require warrior,lock,random healer.
At the moment I have sub/hunt at 2k3 mmr, hunt/ret at 2k4, frost mage/fdk at 2k just by capping weekly.




I see that you're usual warrior player, defending own class and blaming others only. Perma 8 reflect if specced to Mass Reflect, Storm Bolt going going through Deterrence, mentally bugged DWs carrying warriors like you so hard. That's true, warrior is hella strong through whole MoP, but defending your own class bugs what are way more than just positive bugs and calling that l2p is only option or reroll. Grow up and try another class and you might be surprised.

1st of all i am not defending warrior,i am just disguist of you nerds whine over the poor class,beccause of bleed bug and spell reflect only,it's pathetic,if i were you i would quit the game already,my warr is 2.7k so my lock too 2.6k,so stop *****in and l2p or qut,you can't handle bugs it seems lel.

Warrior is not easy to play as you think,many ppl rolled warriors on warmane,and yet they are 2k with 140-200 wins lel
My warr got 211 wins and less than 40 looses or even 30 looses at 2724 rating now,so you wanna say i got the same skills with the 2k ones? (skill=using burst,defs,stuns in proper timing with high succes rotations)
I suppose you will tell Lock is bugged too :D and easy to play?



P.S.Loosing to Dc/crashes or cheaters only,lost 4 times because keyboard failed me,aswell as 3 looses with personal mistakes. get rekt