combat rogue viable for PVE?

[gregvefd]

i wanna make a rogue on this server but i have heard bad things about the spec and class for PVE could anyone shed some light on this for me?

[Holydoctor]

What expansion are you playing in?

[gregvefd]

lol oops wotlk

[taralej]

Of course it's viable. It provides a 4% physical DMG boost in the form of Savage Combat, which is only shared by Arms Warriors' Blood Frenzy, and any raid would take a Combat Rogue over an Arms Warrior. Combat also dishes out very competitive damage and as a Rogue you can support the tank (or DPS on BQL) with Tricks of the Trade.

The main reasons you don't see many Combat Rogues on Warmane are bad players giving them a bad name, the high gear required for Combat to be competitive to Assa, and previous bugs which kept players away from the spec.

[gregvefd]

thanks! ^-^
also so do you mean combat isnt as good at low GS? and what GS would be when combat starts to shine?

[jendah]

Its more about arpen than GS. Two important milestones are reaching soft and hard arp cap.

[Diemtee]

Combat is viable even on low level gears without the ArP, but then you concentrate on rupture build / rotation. Evi spec / rotation doesn't pay off unless you got at least 80+% ArP. Also, hack and slash atm procs only of the main hand auto attacks, so fist+dagger build does more dps.

[Lotros1]

Noo! We need more assassination rogues on WotLK! :P (ofc play what you want haha)

[Heraxion]

One of the higher DPS classes right now, along with Shadowmourne classes (sans UH DK), hunters (ty based Chimera Shot overscaling), druids and warlocks. Used to be the bottom-tier class few years back but ever since damage overscaling from several buffs/debuffs got fixed, it has made its debut recently and is way more significant in PVE DPS wise. As far as I am aware this is the class which is nowadays able to pull off stable 18-21k DPS on stationary fights which is considered extremely high for Wrath.

[gregvefd]

besides combat is there another spec people go?

[taralej]

Well, Assa is also perfectly viable, of course.

[gregvefd]

are they both on par or is one much better than the other?

[Asherdoom]

combat rogue WAS the PVE spec since vanilla wow. here in mop aswell he do awesome in pve content.

[toniplavna]

rogues were in top 3 dps on retail. And that dmg compensate lack of buffs. They fixed hns talent. What about rogues in general now? Are they in top 5 at least now?

[Diemtee]

...They fixed hns talent....

Did they now? Last time Midna posted about it in bug tracker was 2 weeks ago but nothing about a fix.