If they gave you full gear you still wouldn't see above 1500 rating, I got to 2.2k with Ruthless starter gear, so it's not the gear, it's the skill.
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Stop please, i never saw worthless bull**** in my eyes. If you made with s10 up to 2.2k you should be fine with s9 blues to do it. Plus depends how he got gear maybe some friend give away old acc. Plus Skilladin REKT > All server.
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Regarding the "Moltdown" and the coming of AT players, we were in a lose-lose situation. It was unfair to Molten players, but at the same time AT players had paid to have their "VIP," which came with full gear like that. If we just told them "tough luck," they'd feel quite indignant.
But that's the issue here: you guys aren't realizing that Warsong and Blackrock don't necessarily have to be "similar realms." They are two separate servers, in two different expansions and with different "heritage" - something Michiel pointed out many posts ago. If anything Blackrock is the "odd" one, since it kept all the AT tweaks and customizations, while Warsong is simply being kept in tune with the other realms and their lack of customization.
I'm not saying this couldn't be extended to Warsong at some point, but you people seriously have to reconsider the tone you use to "demand because we want." In the end of the day suggestions (not "demands") are put against the vision the Administration has for Warmane and its servers, and it can happen that what players want clashes radically with what the Administration wants.
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Banned
So you mean the community, who plays on your server, and even pay for it, has no voice in the customization of Warsong?
Don't you think those people has the most expertise who actually plays on your servers? These suggestion are not gamebraking, only improves the quaility of the server, More features (duel cd reset, crossfaction bg, soloq) means more fun, more fun means more people, more people means more money.
Can we get some feedback from the actual decision-makers here?
I'm out, peace.
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Of course you have a voice. You're here still talking despite your tone, aren't you?
But having a voice that is heard doesn't means or implies that everything you want will be done. Warmane is run by an Administration, people who choose to create and maintain this structure going, and who have a vision of what they want to provide. Just look at Lordaeron. Going by what the community says, we'd either have given up on the idea or having it become a patchwork of wants that wouldn't resemble in any way what we wanted to make.
Any and all suggestions are just that - suggestions. They aren't commands, demands or something we must do "or else." Everything suggested by players will still be set against the vision the Administration has for what they want to host in each server, and we reserve ourselves the right to say no thank you. Warsong is no exception to that.
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Regarding your first point. I'm not saying you should had told them "Tough luck" As that would be a dick of a move. But couldn't it also had waited a bit for people to get as geared more or less as those AT players? But that is in the past to late to do anything about it now. But they essentially did "start" with S11 Cata gear while the rest of us started with S10 (which I am so happy about so I don't have to deal with S9 lol so don't get me wrong.) I mean you all didn't have to do that, and that I am grateful for. But let's not beat a dead horse here. Heck Molten didn't even HAVE to bring back the servers.
For your second issue/point, it doesn't matter that they don't have to be "similar realms" as what the realm was based on "Tournament PvP 3.3.5 Realm" Just like Warsong is a "Tournament PvP 4.3.4?" I can't remember the actual patch get those numbers so confused lol. I mean they do have their differences already by expansion, game mechanics, etc. But what they were based upon no matter how you look at it, will always be the same. Similar are 2 things that are alike but different at the same time. Hence that was the best term I could had used.
Tbh I don't care if the gear is free or not, but that kind of change that happened on Blackrock would raise a question of "Will the same happen to Warsong?" Which is really all I want to know, cause if yes I would end up waiting around for it, but if no i would continue working on my gear. (I only do BGs so and would do them regardless if the change happened or not)
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Banned
None of you guys like my tone, because you can only accept positive feedbacks here, nothing else.... This is no news for us (people who take time to write ideas / suggestions on your forum).
As i said earlier, im still waiting for a comeptent person who can write us down what is the conception for the future Warsong, besides "Low / lowest priority server", "will be implemented soon" (this means 6-8 months or more), and other nonsense answers. For example Malaco, who should be the Number1 person here, but he is really just ignoring this whole thing.
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Head Moderator
What else you need to know that the Moderator haven't explained yet, Nkwala? I ask you to watch your manners, as all Moderators are competent enough to speak for the Staff.
what is the conception for the future Warsong?
- It hasn't been decided yet, but we sure will detail everything in due time. Warsong will get attention in the future. Malaco has worked on Blackrock for now.
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Amount of Blackrock players everyday before this decision = 200--500
After the decision = 800-900 players
Warsong atm without any atention = 100-350
Clearly there's something that the staff is missing out seems but anyways like I always say: "Your server, your rules."
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I have to say though, on the topic of Warsong features and Suggestion in general, even if our suggestions are just suggestion when you see as many posts like:
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You have to think, with this many requests for soloQ (and other features, i'm just using SoloQ as one example to simplify things) it should really persuade Admins/Mods or whoever makes the decisions, to add it. SoloQ was begged for quite a lot even before AT members came over, now we have these players that are so used to SoloQ. Suggestions are just suggestions yes, but when there are many posts crying out for a particular feature with a lot of support backing it in the comments then it should be acted upon and given.
By the way there are many, many more topics about SoloQ in particular but I thought those few would be sufficient.
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Head Moderator
We are aware of this, but we don't have the manpower for that now. Doesn't mean we will never do it. Just not now.
I wish too, that is was just a copy/paste case. But unfortunately it is not.
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Member
If I could I would love to be a dev for Warsong D: ....but I don't know any kind of coding/scripting ;-;
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Yes i believe Warsong should have same features as Blackrock since both realms are PvP. Neglecting features equality in both PvP servers will lead to a faster dead to Warsong.
To begin with you could give us cata gear and progress slowly to add the other features.
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Wouldn't providing starter cata gear conflict with the main incentive of PvP: earning better gear?
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Back in AT, Cata realm had free 1 week CATA gear + elite (weapons) after that week gear vanished. It was made for new players who came to server play. This thing should be implemented and we have no rage and real gear is safe.
Warsong should be same as AT CATA was hands down. It was pure joy to play in well scripted server.
5v5 is not active at all. This should replaced by Solo Queue with achievement gain of 5v5 would bring more players who want play with randoms.Edited: July 18, 2015
