I can’t remember the last season that was legit.
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Banned
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Forum Veteran
Season 1 back 2 years ago...
Twas a good season.
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This issue is hardly big enough to call for cancelling a season and saying there's no "proper arena environment". I queue actively on just about every class, both in 2s and 3s, and random empty teams are about 1 out of 100 games, or less.
Solution here is simple, just ban the win traders..
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That is actually a surprise. I mean it looks pretty polished where you could release it now, but since it's not done yet I can't wait to see it be finished.
Though I am kind of worried. I mean what if a person has a 3.8k rating and got it in a legit way? D:Edited: July 24, 2015
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The season just before Moltdown on Cata (Sargeras) had virtually no win-traders.
All the good players were gone, so it didn't feel special to win a title, but it was totally legit.
I've had to stop queueing at night time because people were win-trading and I didn't want to get rating from them leaving the game before it begins due to me possibly getting involved. (Was 3v3, the win-traders were showing up EVERY game, I queued into them 3 times, instantly, and got free rating each time, then stopped for obvious reasons)
The issue is actually quite large. It's impossible to say just how many teams have gotten how much rating from win-traders. Worse, many players are scared of being associated with win-traders and don't even bother queueing (me and my teammates for example).
This is just one of the reasons there shouldn't titles (and I don't want to go into the other reasons, as that's totally off-topic, atleast our discussion on win-trading is somewhat relevant)
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I very much agree with you that no wintrader should be awarded what so ever, but at the end of the season, it's pretty easy to see who's wintraded and who hasn't, simply from the records available through the armory. Wouldn't worry too much about this, or even at all. All competing top teams are eagerly tracking teams around their rating to make sure they aren't doing anything dodgy, and any and all wintrading is reported as soon as it's spotted. Noone in the top 20 goes unchecked, both by competing players (and I'm assuming) staff. No biggie ☺
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Sorry to derail thread, but where do we report wintraders?
Edited: July 24, 2015
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Of course, people win trading on purpose should be banned.
The issue is, many players that had no intentions to win-trade have benefitted immensely from the win-traders not joining matches. This has made many players (like myself) not play due to us possibly getting banned for free rating, and has helped many other players get free rating. The whole ladder has been skewed as a result of these "free" games.
Before we can have a proper season, we need to fix the bug where having no enemies in an arena awards rating and mmr. Furthermore, we need to fix other bugs I won't mention that can make getting high rank easy without actually needing to play many games (there is in fact a way to actually get to 2.2k rating easily without having to win even a single game and without win-trading, this is the state of the server currently). If you look at this objectively, you will realize how sad it would be to give titles to players that can abuse the rating system. I haven't even gone into how some classes were completely unviable due to class bugs for months (mages/polymorph) or other classes were op due to them (warlock/shivarra/mesmerize).
Titles here are permanent, unlike on retail where they reset every season. I would HATE to see some noob walking around the server with a gladiator on their head because they were able to abuse as much as possible when the server was new and bugged.
Just my two cents :)
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Field Medic Moderator
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You should not be surprised with code.
As you are now aware, the look is different to functionality. It may look polished, but the functionality of how it works does not work as intended.
It takes a few seconds to write a String of text, and a few more minutes to format it horizontally. The stats you see may not be generated automatically, and are likely to be hard-coded stats added to illustrate the layout of the armory. Simply, it means, it currently may not get the stats of the character, but you see that it has as an example. Secondly, the tabs you see across the horizontal line is also similar perhaps; when the tab is clicked on, it is possible it is empty, with no additional information except Achievement and Talents, as an example.
Ultimately, because you see text on a screen does not entail the functionality of the armory, that is likely why it seems polished but not finished.
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From myself I can report that:
after trying to zoom in/zoom out a charater in profile tab (using mouse scroll) whole site goes up and down (it would be better imo that after mouseovering on that flash window your browser window should not move) - Chrome browser
I don't know if it's easy to fix, but this would greatly improve armory in my opinion.
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Its beautiful.
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Are you just deleted post when one guy uploaded picture of wintrading? And why you done that if it was really wintrading?
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Field Medic Moderator
Because it's an inappropriate use of the forum. Send reports here: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....orting-Players
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I don't know what server you're on, but I queue actively, every single day, on Neltharion, and less than 0.5% of my games are empty. Might be a different case where you play, but noone is getting rank 1 or a title from these empty games, let alone challenger, saying there are people that have "benefitted immensely" is a massive exaggeration Neltharion POV anyway.
On a side note, you don't get banned if you randomly get empty teams - the people that were wintrading, however, does, so don't feel discouraged and stop queuing simply because of a few empties ☺
Edit: Assuming you play on MoP after seeing the 3.8k teams there - LOL.
