WotLK Multiboxing and Fair Pvp.

[dike]

ahah, all those multiboxing fans here) u guys, should accept one fact - multiboxing requires 0 skill, just one (or two lel) good PC.

[Jakkre]

ahah, all those multiboxing fans here) u guys, should accept one fact - multiboxing requires 0 skill, just one (or two lel) good PC.

First of all no, multiboxing doesnt require a good PC.
WoW is a old game and the hardware requirements for 5 boxing are pretty low.
Second, multiboxing requires more skill than single boxing because of a simple and logical reason: Playing one char to perfection is always easier than playing multiple chars at the same time to perfection.

[Logram]

Have you ever seen a multiboxing ele shaman on pandaria? yesterday i did, it was a pain in the ***. just shooting lava bursts like a gatling gun, oneshotting everything in los, grounding every 30 secs any kind of cc 5 times, windshearing any kind of spell and pulling out so much healing that a mw monk couldn't do it better. Now tell me, where's che challenging part with that?

[Jakkre]

Have you ever seen a multiboxing ele shaman on pandaria? yesterday i did, it was a pain in the ***. just shooting lava bursts like a gatling gun, oneshotting everything in los, grounding every 30 secs any kind of cc 5 times, windshearing any kind of spell and pulling out so much healing that a mw monk couldn't do it better. Now tell me, where's che challenging part with that?

I could ask u the same thing when it comes to BG premades. Whats the challenge when u are in a 5 man premade where everybody is best in slot geared and u are farming the undergeared enemys in their graveyard?
U cant expect to beat a multiboxer alone and u cant expect to beat a 5 man premade alone.

The challenge as a multiboxer is that u need to control all ur chars at the same time and manage all roles at the same time which are healing, dealing damage and when it comes to pve also tanking.
In a 5vs5 situation it is ofc more challenging to be multiboxer who has to care about all his 5 chars than beeing a single player in a 5 man premade and thats the reason why a 5 man premade usually beats and 5 man boxer.

In pve its the same story. When u take 5 slots as a multiboxer in a raid its more challenging to play each of ur chars to perfection like when u have to master just one char.

[IzzyData]

Multiboxing has plenty of negative consequences that rarely allow it to be better than the same number of actual players. Just exploit the weeknesses and don't be stupid when fighting them.

[Nillzz]

Reading so much stupid stuff honestly.. Multiboxing and skill lol, you couldn't fake cast,interupt, or even use your spells properly just sitting there and mashing buttons and hope it kills the enemy. My advice is get a clue, as far as premades if there wasn't a p2w thing most of the people would running around in quest gear not to mention multiboxers wont even have that so yea as i said get a clue. Being challenging, my *** pressing 10 flameshocks and 5 wild growth really skillful. I can go on for days explaining to you why multiboxing requires 0 skill that is why people play it. And for those that you mention full bis 5 man premades they are almost as worse as multiboxers, cause they can't be relevant in arenas and make it to the top 10 so that's why they go on bg's and later upload pictures to the forums "look at my stats'' and i dunno what they expect to come of it. And about that link you keep posting about why multiboxing is allowed there is a reason why it's closed cause when people come at you with facts even the gods don't argue with facts :). So you keep pretending like it requires skill and we will keep pretending we believe you,the same goes for "it raises the challenge" keep pretending it does.And lastly the blizzlike thing.. i can't really say much without violating the rules of the forums but i will say this if this is going to be blizzlike make everything else blizzlike and i do mean every single thing if that is the excuse for multiboxing being allowed.
Please do not delete my post,i don't think i violated any rules if i did let me know i will correct my post and make it more appealing.

[Evangelion]

I could ask u the same thing when it comes to BG premades. Whats the challenge when u are in a 5 man premade where everybody is best in slot geared and u are farming the undergeared enemys in their graveyard?
U cant expect to beat a multiboxer alone and u cant expect to beat a 5 man premade alone.

The challenge as a multiboxer is that u need to control all ur chars at the same time and manage all roles at the same time which are healing, dealing damage and when it comes to pve also tanking.
In a 5vs5 situation it is ofc more challenging to be multiboxer who has to care about all his 5 chars than beeing a single player in a 5 man premade and thats the reason why a 5 man premade usually beats and 5 man boxer.

In pve its the same story. When u take 5 slots as a multiboxer in a raid its more challenging to play each of ur chars to perfection like when u have to master just one char.

That's in WotLK, and yes I don't mind multibox there. But on MoP it's ****ing hilarious, the guy that mentioned 5 ele shamans - that is okay, but I saw 5 enha Grievous shamans. It was a total annihilation in WSG, entire alliance team geared in tyr died in like 4 seconds from those lightnings(forgot the name). How he tabs on someone that person gets a hurricane up their face dying instantly with zero chance of survival. (My priest got hit 3x 200k same moment guy tabbed on me.)

[Panofsky]

First of all no, multiboxing doesnt require a good PC.
WoW is a old game and the hardware requirements for 5 boxing are pretty low.
Second, multiboxing requires more skill than single boxing because of a simple and logical reason: Playing one char to perfection is always easier than playing multiple chars at the same time to perfection.

Starting from the fact that I'm not against multiboxers and I've always found funny to fight against them in the bgs, by using a multiboxing software don't you coordinate all your keybinds in order to press almost the same buttons for the same spell? I mean, I don't get why it's should be considered more difficult then playing one single char. At the same time a single lava burst hits 5 times more then a normal player, so... I think multiboxing may be difficult when you are playing different classes at the same time but still it's almost like playing a ****ing arms warrior with 4 healers behind and if we basically recognize that an arms warrior dominating a bg just because he has a lot pocket healers is not so impressing why should we use a different argument just for the multiboxers?

[Keyboardhero]

Second, multiboxing requires more skill than single boxing because of a simple and logical reason: Playing one char to perfection is always easier than playing multiple chars at the same time to perfection.

you are actualy playing one char others are just copying what 1st does so hows that multitple chars to perfection ?

only way you could play multiple chars for real is if you had 5 pc's and 10 hands and 5 heads and then watch them all and control what they do at same time

then it could be called skill no overpowered software to help you just you and your multiple hands and heads
you just want to nuke people with x5 lava burst notthing else why cause its funny

lol controling one char to perfection is easy so i jakkre will roll x5 eleshamans thats hardcore thats the real thing

How multiboxing usually works is that you will hit a key, say R, and it will fire whatever is bound to R on multiple copies of WoW. As mentioned, those copies can be on the same computer, or on different ones. So, say you have two elemental shaman, and both of them have Lightning Bolt bound to R. Hit R on WoW 1, and R will also activate on WoW 2. Both shaman fire their Lightning Bolt. If one shaman has Lightning Bolt on R, and the other has Healing Surge, they will each fire what they have bound. You can do it with the same spells or different, the same classes, or different.

Amazing perfection Jakkre

il just play 3 ele shamans and 2 boomkins and then when i press 3 on keyboard thanks to my op software my 3 elemental shamans gona shoot x3 lavaburst and at same time my 2 boomkins gona drop x2 starfall boy oh boy perfecton at its best.

[Alesxigladlawl]

"Perfection"
Please you're patethic, consider the simple fact:
When a Multiboxer have any chance to win? In a 5+ PvP scenario when the first target is dead in the first gcd thanks to the timed attack of 5 Ele shamans (Guess why Shamans or Boomkins or DKs are the most used by the Multiboxers..lol)
You dont know anything about pvp and you dont know anything about how play shaman propery, you just rely on oneshot or the healing at the same time of all your multiboxing team.
When i'll see a multiboxer reach a proper arena in 3v3 bracket, call me. (Oh wait, they cant as they are not able to oneshot in a scenario where you need be brained,know how to cc or LoS propery)
Multiboxers find enjoyable attack city, or premade BG, let them do it and think are something close to decent, meanwhile all the world except them take them as a joke.

2v2: omg i cant oneshot
3v3: omg i cant oneshot pointless play
5v5: mmm something can be oneshotted if are completly ******ed, let's try it
10+vs10+: oooh nice i can use all my bots and oneshot the first guy that will be in my los
City invasion: oh im damn pro, gonna gank every pvper which are getting pvp flagged and oneshot them BUAHAHHAHA I PLAY CLOSE TO PERFECTIOn

[Jakkre]

That's in WotLK, and yes I don't mind multibox there. But on MoP it's ****ing hilarious, the guy that mentioned 5 ele shamans - that is okay, but I saw 5 enha Grievous shamans. It was a total annihilation in WSG, entire alliance team geared in tyr died in like 4 seconds from those lightnings(forgot the name). How he tabs on someone that person gets a hurricane up their face dying instantly with zero chance of survival. (My priest got hit 3x 200k same moment guy tabbed on me.)

Yeah thats stormblast during ascendance.
U need to pop ur defensive and go out of LoS until ascendance wears off. Without ascendance it should be possible to outheal the dmg of the enhance shamis.

you are actualy playing one char others are just copying what 1st does so hows that multitple chars to perfection ?

only way you could play multiple chars for real is if you had 5 pc's and 10 hands and 5 heads and then watch them all and control what they do at same time

then it could be called skill no overpowered software to help you just you and your multiple hands and heads
you just want to nuke people with x5 lava burst notthing else why cause its funny

lol controling one char to perfection is easy so i jakkre will roll x5 eleshamans thats hardcore thats the real thing



Amazing perfection Jakkre

il just play 3 ele shamans and 2 boomkins and then when i press 3 on keyboard thanks to my op software my 3 elemental shamans gona shoot x3 lavaburst and at same time my 2 boomkins gona drop x2 starfall boy oh boy perfecton at its best.

Multiboxing 3 ele shamis and 2 boomkins is already a good example.
Try to master the Eclipse procs, instant starsurge procs and the instant lava burst procs on 5 chars.
Making a perfect dmg rotation with these 5 chars in a raid is much harder than doing it with just one char.

Also WoW is not a static battle. Pretty much every boss encouner requires movement. Lets take for example a boss that applys a debuff to a random raid member and this debuff does aoe dmg to all raid member that are close to the player.
As a single player its pretty simple, u just run away from the raid until the debuff fades. As a 5 man boxer u have to track all ur 5 chars and when somebody gets the debuff u have to switch to the character and run away while the rest of ur chars need to continue doing dmg to the boss.

In PvP its the same story, its also not a static battle. What if u try to cast 5x lavaburst against a melee and he hides behind u? U need to manage that all ur 5 chars are facing the enemy or u wont do any dmg.
What if a priest or lock runs in ur team and fears everyone? Unless u have something to break it ur whole team gonna sit in a CC and is aferward spread.
What if a shami runs in ur team and use thunderstorm? Ur team is spread all over the map and u need to waist time collecting all ur chars.
What if u run around on ur mount and one of ur chars get sapped? U need to wait with the whole team or ur char gonna be left behind.

Lets talk about the countless number of aoe CC that MoP offers:
Shockwave, Psychic Scream, Howl of Terror, Intimidating Shout, Remorseless Winter, Ursols Vortex, Solar Beam, Ring of Frost, Dragon's Breath, Dragon Roar, Shadowfury, Blinding Light, Incapacitating Roar, Fists of Fury, Ring of Peace
There are enough aoe CC effects to keep the multiboxer in a endless CC chain or to interrupt every cast.

Multiboxing may sound simple on the paper but in reality its pretty hard to be successful in it.
If u dont believe me then try it yourself and then come to a conclusion.
Judging something that u never tried is anyway stupid.

[Alesxigladlawl]

1-What if u try to cast 5x lavaburst against a melee and he hides behind u? U need to manage that all ur 5 chars are facing the enemy or u wont do any dmg.
2-What if a priest or lock runs in ur team and fears everyone? Unless u have something to break it ur whole team gonna sit in a CC and is aferward spread.
3-What if a shami runs in ur team and use thunderstorm? Ur team is spread all over the map and u need to waist time collecting all ur chars.
4-What if u run around on ur mount and one of ur chars get sapped? U need to wait with the whole team or ur char gonna be left behind.
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1- THats like the biggest bull**** ever heard in my entire life,4 are in follow of your main bot, you simply stay in 1 place mostly of the times waiting for the enemy to come out, popping istant LB and oneshot anyone unless he bubble, Dont try to look like you use your brain while multiboxing.
2-If the priest or lock comes near you there is something called KITE or TREMOR as he cant kill 5 tremor totems in the same moment, in worst cases you can use 1 Thunderstorm.
3-If a shaman is running in for thunderstorm he is dead in the way for it, if not, you got 5 grounding totems and 5 thunderstorm for counter it before he to it.
4-IF you run on mount vs a rogue as Multiboxer, you're simply stupid. If a rogue is that lucky to sap you, simply need to put 4 totems AoE/Eathbind and unless he CoS he is doomed.

All the things you stated,are basic for any decent team in 2s/3s bracket, while sounds like so hard for you.
Once again, when you'll get some proper rate in WOTLK realms in 3s, where you actually cant oneshot anyone unless lucky rng, call us.
Untill that, hide your *** in 5 or more boxing oneshoting and pretending that is involved with anykind of skill or ability.

[Jakkre]

2-If the priest or lock comes near you there is something called KITE or TREMOR as he cant kill 5 tremor totems in the same moment, in worst cases you can use 1 Thunderstorm.

Try to kite enemys as a multiboxer. good luck dude.

3-If a shaman is running in for thunderstorm he is dead in the way for it, if not, you got 5 grounding totems and 5 thunderstorm for counter it before he to it.

U forget the fact that there are plenty of other enemys swarming the multiboxer and he has hardly the time to care about this single shami that runs in to thunderstorm him.

4-IF you run on mount vs a rogue as Multiboxer, you're simply stupid. If a rogue is that lucky to sap you, simply need to put 4 totems AoE/Eathbind and unless he CoS he is doomed.

There is nothing easier than sapping a multiboxer. The rog must be braindead if he get touched by the magma totems.

U are a typical example of somebody who never multiboxed himself and is only theorycrafting.
In a pvp battle there is not only this one shami that thunderstorms u and this one priest trying to fear u.
There are many shamis, priests, warriors, mages and what not and they are all attacking ur team at the same time and u have to deal with all the incoming fears, thunderstorms, shockwaves, bladestorms, ring of frosts and so on.

I can tell u what will happen when u try to multibox for ur first time and u join a BG.
There gonna be such a chaos in pvp that u will absolutely lose the control over ur team and u gonna end up beeing farmed at the graveyard.

[iSullivan]

I think most of the haters are rolling with the mentality that they should be able to 1v1 a 5/10/40m multiboxer and when they fail they just go into salt mode on the forums.

[DamnOriginal]

I think most of the haters are rolling with the mentality that they should be able to 1v1 a 5/10/40m multiboxer and when they fail they just go into salt mode on the forums.

Or maybe they're just concerned for the health of momma duck and her baby ducklings. A battleground is no place for small animals.