1. Yet your posts (including what another Moderator deleted) have pretty much been centered around "I and ten friends fear Lordaeron will be pay-to-win and won't come if it is," repeatedly. There's no official detailed information about it and you're already in fear. Take a deep breath, relax. If what we provide in the end satisfies you, great. If it doesn't, that's fine.

  2. Obnoxious, I never stated it will be the end of the world. I said that my friends are hesitant to see how out of control the p2w will be. And we will all still try it out and wait and see what happens but damn does this community seem like **** already.



    Can't tell if sarcastic but normal is not a challenge and my logic is not flawed at all, bad people will buy gear like your self that you wouldn't otherwise be able to earn.
    You never did ICC normal without buff then i can tell.... With TOC/Ulduar gear that is or the gear that you have earned till ICC is released. It was a challange!

  3. There is a difference between stating an implication of "if this happens then I will not come" compared to we are hesitant to how the coins will pan out. I created this thread looking for more information regarding what type of gear can be bought and the pricing of such. If you don't have further information regarding the topic you can say you don't know rather than make false assumptions of my intentions.

    There is no reason to be so presumptuous and hostile to potential players. Thanks =)

  4. If being told to "calm down and wait to see what happens" is hostile, when you go telling an user replying to you that "bad people will buy gear like your self"... yeah, whatever.

  5. If being told to "calm down and wait to see what happens" is hostile, when you go telling an user replying to you that "bad people will buy gear like your self"... yeah, whatever.
    No but when you add "If what we provide in the end satisfies you, great. If it doesn't, that's fine.." it kind of sounds disrespectful (the last part of the sentence the most)

  6. No but when you add "If what we provide in the end satisfies you, great. If it doesn't, that's fine.." it kind of sounds disrespectful (the last part of the sentence the most)
    It's not disrespectful at all, it's simply a clean position. As I've said countless times, we know Lordaeron won't be a server fitting the wants and play styles of everyone. If what we will provide doesn't satisfies a player, to the point they wouldn't want to play, that is in fact fine. No one is forced to or inherently expected to agree with all the design features the server will have, and we fully accept that some people won't.

  7. It's not disrespectful at all, it's simply a clean position. As I've said countless times, we know Lordaeron won't be a server fitting the wants and play styles of everyone. If what we will provide doesn't satisfies a player, to the point they wouldn't want to play, that is in fact fine. No one is forced to or inherently expected to agree with all the design features the server will have, and we fully accept that some people won't.
    Maybe i understand things differently and what i was thinking wasn't what you meant and i apologize then. Cause to me it sounded like if you don't like it fine not our problem, and that is a wrong way (in my opinion) to approach anything weather its a making of a good realm/server or anything else.

  8. i want to ask about marketplace/coin use for PvP items....it is clear to me about PvE items...u gota earn achivement+normal version of item 2 buy heroic...thats fine i get it ... but how do you translate such thing about PvP items. i realy dont understand that part. since thers no normal / hc pvp gear will it be who has (for example) full relentless char ...when wrathfull season comes he can buy full wrathfull gear since he has relentless ? i know pvp aint gona be that important thing here but stil would love 2 know the plan for this .

  9. i want to ask about marketplace/coin use for PvP items....it is clear to me about PvE items...u gota earn achivement+normal version of item 2 buy heroic...thats fine i get it ... but how do you translate such thing about PvP items. i realy dont understand that part. since thers no normal / hc pvp gear will it be who has (for example) full relentless char ...when wrathfull season comes he can buy full wrathfull gear since he has relentless ? i know pvp aint gona be that important thing here but stil would love 2 know the plan for this .
    It prob would be based on the raiting that the items are bought for but i don't know either. Have to wait for a official statement

  10. No, that wasn't what I meant. "It's fine" in the sense of "no harm done, we know not everyone will want to play it." Lordaeron is being made with a goal in mind, and we're just sticking to it even if it might be a deal breaker for certain players, like the RDF thing.

    On the Marketplace subject, there have been people complaining about the very mention of it from day one and stating the server will be a failure, "p2w" and other things, without any official information being released about what will be in the Marketplace, besides that it will be made costlier than the usual and more restricted, exactly because we don't want coin items to be common.

    People will have to wait and see. The current information is vague, yes, and it will remain like this until an official post is made about it or until the server is released and players get to see what the Marketplace is like for themselves. The focus right now is on in-game content, on getting bugs fixed and any missing stuff included. The Marketplace could even not be there from the start for all we know, so it could be even longer until players have to be "worried."

  11. Maybe i understand things differently and what i was thinking wasn't what you meant and i apologize then. Cause to me it sounded like if you don't like it fine not our problem, and that is a wrong way (in my opinion) to approach anything weather its a making of a good realm/server or anything else.
    Your view on the word 'fine' has been swayed by the 'new' society. Today, fine often means, whatever not my problem with a sassy sorta flair, or, if your in arguement and it ends in the word fine, oooh dear that is never a good thing.
    i.e fine today, means the opposite of what most people would consider fine to mean.
    Fine=middle finger
    But back in the day, fine simply meant it IS infact, OK.
    Lordaeron will have no RDF, and for me, this is fine
    Obnoxious, i implore you to exchange the word fine, from hereafter and onward - with Gucci

    OT of P2W -marketplace- coins : One thing is clear, if youve read thru all the points on the subject, there are quite a few so if you havent read them all, thats fine; we should have a large amount of faith that warmane is looking to veer from P2W on a whole, in the Lordaeron Realm most CERTainly. As many have stated- yes you can buy gear w coins but itll cost you a S*** ton of real life cash.

    We dont know exact facts and details, but, with some simple math and conservative estimates- using the facts that we DO know > lol, your not talking P2W anymore- more like give up your next car, scratch that future home, and nevermind gifts for your Gf
    - there will always be the folks who are determined to be the best, no matter the cost, but if it means 10-20 people are running around Lordearon BiS w coin gear id be fine with that.

    Kaer knows P2w is garbage, he knows its chomped away the edges of WoW(subliminal message) - I say lets give Warmane benefit of doubt, it seems to me they been working on their juggling act the past few months. (juggling between server needs $$ somehow/but P2W is silly in azeroth)
    ...the marketplace cutbacks and rearranging....the new activity points...this new Lord realm....

    remember
    patience
    discipline
    Edited: August 27, 2015 Reason: format

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