Yeah our goal is to clear all Vanlia content there is before BC launch... Altho how far we are gonna get that's another question. I think it's gonna be a lot easier due to the new spells/talents, scaling, nerfs and what not.
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You're overestimating the difficulty of vanilla content. On another blizzlike scripted vanilla 1.12.1 server that shall not be named we cleared MC in 2 weeks after release, 5-7 days /played of leveling 1-60 with 1x experience rate included mind you. Keep in mind that vanilla content is 10 years old so everyone knew the tactics in and out. ZG is even easier than MC.
Having WotLK talents/spells will make it completely trivial, to the point where you can 10 man MC. I do believe any decent guild that's actually trying will be able to clear AQ40 before TBC is released.
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Oh how i'd love to raid MC or ZG… When you guys reach 60 you should probably do some pvp to get the full warlord set, it surpasses MC gear in quality and it'll help you clear content faster.
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Uh you do realize with the wrath scaling, talents and spells we are gonna do more damage/healing then we did in Vanlia? If you check one Molten core boss health... A tank perhaps will hit 1% of their hp... due to how much dmg they deal (as an example). Now imagine 40 people (or less) doing higher dps then the tank?
We will see if we will PVP or PVE to get gear but most likely it will be dungeons.
Still we can do it lol!Edited: September 20, 2015
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Yeah, he is quoting another person. :)
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You say all of this as if this content hasn't already been mowed over by the majority of everyone on Warmane.
There are no secrets to WoW anymore so it's not like there will need to be a lot of prep time, we have 3.3.5 talents and stats (far superior to before TBC time!) so your statement about players not playing before TBC is irrelevant, and it most certainly doesn't take long at all to 1-60 on a WotLK server as exp gains were increased twice on retail (assuming it'll be the same here as it's a blizzlike server). I mean, grinding dungeons and 60 raids before TBC is what I thought everyone was going to do lol.
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All I wanted was just a question answered and I come back to people going crazy XD
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Old content doesn't necessarily mean its common knowledge. Those who have been in MC before has done so with 80 level and ICC gear and so tactics and general discipline could be completely ignored.
I dare you that if you would randomly ask someone in the game if he knows the tactics for Baron or Sulfuron, then 9 out of 10 will say they have no idea. If I were to ask anyone what fire resistance would be a minimum requirement and where to farm these items even fewer would be able to answer. Im just trying to make a point here.
I haven't played wow since after TBC (First time i tried wotlk was here) and unless MC has gotten a serious nerf, then i find it hard to believe the extra boosts you will get from new talents and spells will matter THAT much, but I guess I need to be proven wrong.
I also find it hard to believe you will be able to scrap together 40(!) dedicated players on this server, that are willing and committed to farm lbrs/ubrs/strat/scholo/dm extensively and attend to ZG runs in order to gear up for MC.
If it is truly possible as some people have claimed in this thread that you can actually do MC bosses with the same gear you reached level 60 on, then MC isnt the same raid I did back on those days.
Sorry I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I really need to see this to believe it, again I admire ur enthusiasm and wish you good luck on your quest. Looking forward to the guild thread update.
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Vanilla tactics aren't really hard at all, people can easily explain and learn them fast.
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It's not ment to be like the old Vanilla Mc days. It's content for us to enjoy while the dev's fix the game up into a nice present by X-Mas. And for the month that we have playing Vanilla, I doubt people will be doing all that. Given they reach 60 in 2 weeks (for an average working/school person) you still only have 2 weeks to clear all that content, which means you only have 2 weeks lockout to finish MC/etc... So, my point is, lets get gear and enjoy it while we still have time
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People understood the tactics of first boss in BWL and second boss in AQ20 but it was still seen as a huge achievement for any guild that managed to pass them.
My point exactly.Edited: September 20, 2015
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@Imperiel the raids will be hella easy to complete. I was there on retail for vanilla, i got realm first C'thun and 10 bosses down in naxx before BC was released.
With the new scaling these raids will be very easy, you have new talents, new spells, new buffs, paladins are now significantly more useful, and above all, health and mana pools are increased massively even with crappy gear and boss spells arent increased to counter it. You wont need full tier 1 gear to progress to BWL etc because of this.
My only issue is whether the 40 man raid option was actually removed with WOTLK? I was never really sure if you could still put 40 people in the same vanilla raid instance when they changed it to 25 man raids?Edited: September 22, 2015
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We pretty much did MC in greens (and still got server first) on a 1.12.1 server. I don't think we even used FR, although we did have pots for Raggy iirc. Some guilds might struggle if the majority come from TBC or Wrath servers, but for the most part, with updated spells, it won't be that hard.
AQ is obviously out though because of the War Effort.
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They aren't doing the War Effort, its just gonna be open.
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Yea i'm sure it was really easy, that's why only 0.5% of wow's playerbase got to enter naxx during vanila, not even talking about the percentage that actually cleared a decent amount of bosses out of that 0.5%.It's true that the hardest part was to actually gather 40 competent people (since even 1 mistake was unforgiving), mainly the greedy warrior tanks, but still, to say you were there during retail and call it easy sounds really fishy and silly to me.
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