The fact that you're insulting me shows the level of your intelligence which is almost as big as your feet size and, the fact that you think I'm insulted is way beyond ******ed.
IQ doesn't even exist and yet you have taken upon yourself to use it in another invalid statement lol, IQ doesn't make any sense because measuring someone's intelligence cannot be proven by 60-100 questions, I don't believe in IQ and I believe that most of the highly superior intelligent people don't either, ask them yourself (if you know some).
Anyway, back to the main topic, Blizzard BARELY gets paid anymore and expansions come out every like what, 1.5-2 years? So much income I can't get over it, my ******ed nephew gets paid more that what we pay them for expansions in 1 month.
By the way, when Blizzard removed follow in battlegrounds they defined the non-botters (the people who use /follow on other people and AFK) as botters and that's to whom they referred, they said it clearly, they were AWARE of the changes that are going to happen to Multiboxers and they have chosen to go along with them.
Also, when did I ever mention Multiboxing in battlegrounds? I said World PvP... Why are you bringing up such random dull facts?
Take a second and put yourself in the middle of the argument, imagine you're in a no side.
Lordaeron is a BLIZZ-LIKE realm, Blizzlike means they're trying to keep the game mechanics and settings as closer as possible to that of the retail.
Multiboxing was allowed on retail and it was there since day 1, I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed on this supposedly called "Blizz-like realms" ignore the incomes, the staff developed a private server which was meant to be free, why are they paying attention to the incomes just now? you see, it doesn't add up.
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By the way the pro was that we increase the competition of world pvp, which is true, we make people make raids and fight us back, the trade chat always floods with "oh multiboxer! let's group up and kill him, let's wipe that newb" or whatever, the income is going to be strong for Warmane IF they open the shops. I understand the player's point of view but they don't understand ours either. Population loss isn't a thing because Multiboxing is allowed on all the other realms and yet there at over 15,000 players playing in the realms.
These bored rich spoiled "kids" worked their asses off to get this far, you think you know us? and to be honest I'm starting to come to a conclusion that you're not very bright and you know what they say, don't argue with an *****, they'll drag ya down to their level and beat you with experience.
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This is what I meant by provoking a useless dumbass discussion, the community's atmosphere tends to close down and become very uncomfortable, the trolls come out and the insults starts going on.
Just for ****'s sake, close this discussion down and weigh the pros and cons yourself.
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When did I say I think you was insulted? You got a bit cocky with the 'Be sarcastic, keep my interested' part, in my eyes you was bigging yourself up, I had to knock you down a peg, take it how you want /shrug. This is, after all a discussion of why MBoxing should or should not be removed...rememebr that :)
If blizzard barely got paid anymore (I assume we are on about income from WoW, because I imagine the company get, a year, every single user of this forum's annual wage and then some) then they would more than likely of shutdown WoW. No point keeping something running if they get no income eh? And yes roughly every 2 years. That 'opinion' about anyone you know receiving more money than Blizz do off of Multiboxers through expacs just blew my mind, give me proof of the amount of multi-boxers that bought WoD and then we can do the Maths together and work it out:) Jk you can't ever possibly know how many multiboxers came into WoD. No, blizz did not say (go link me a blue post if you disagree) who the /follow change was targetted at, but threads such as http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8087929775 and http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7341114868 kind of speak for themselves. You do not need to do anything to catch a /follow afker out, if they try to afk the whole bg they would eventually lose distance of their /follow target and stand idle or just be spotted and reported.
Why are you mentioning just World PvP? Multiboxing doesn't revolve around that one aspect...or is there some hidden 'declaration' in teh Multiboxing community saying that it's only for world PvP? I gave you an example of Blizz not giving a **** about Multiboxers. They are tolerated, that's it, due to the income they bring end of. Quote from a forum MvP and also a boxer 'I'm a multiboxer myself, but I just can't agree with the refunds.
Blizzard's policy has -always- been that multiboxing is tolerated but not supported.
There was never the expectation of support for it. Changes could happen at any point and boxers have to adapt.' Source:http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8087929775
You don't need to be a genius to work out why they are tolerated but not supported.
Blizz-like...thanks for saying that... 'Blizz-like: alike to Blizzard.
"Alike
adjective
having resemblance or similarity; having or showing no marked or important difference"'
How "alike to Blizzard" and where it won't be "alike to Blizzard" is, in the last instance, up to the Administration and the Staff.
All that is a word for word quote by a staff member.Edited: September 28, 2015
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Just going to quote this in a seperate post, my first one is long enough as it is.
When a multiboxer comes to town, everyone says 'Hey look, it's that virgin again' *Mounts up, flys out of range and afks* Amazing competition! Gz you worked your asses off, so did we, why the **** should we have to put up with you guys...
There is no population loss from them realms because there is no where to go. But when it comes to here people will think 'Now, deal with this mboxer on a x1 rate and slowly work my way up but get the **** kicked out of me a lot on the way there, or go back to the x7, put up with it for a few hours, get some easy as **** gear and then have a fighting chance...with in hours'
See what I mean?
Nice attempt at an insult there, allow me to just
'The fact that you're insulting me shows the level of your intelligence which is almost as big as your feet size and, the fact that you think I'm insulted is way beyond ******ed.'
Oh **** did I just go down to your level...;)Edited: September 28, 2015
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Then Multiboxing should be tolerated but not supported :)
Yes it is a discussion and a very dumb one I must say.
Blizzard barely gets paid from expansions... say 100 multiboxers in average 5 accounts bought WoD (Could be more or less, not sure but let's do the Math anyway! because Math is love Math is life) . Expansions come out at $50 or something. 100 Multiboxers * 5 accounts = 500 accounts. 500 * $50 = $25000, the average engineer gets paid about $10,000 a month. That's 2.5 months of work in a comparison with 1.5-2 years
Doesn't sound a lot to me... I'd purge it to stop the crying, yet it's still tolerated.
I only speak to World PvP because most of us gear from battlegrounds and then do arenas and don't ever queue battlegrounds anymore.
Also /follow still did some work and it indeed reduced the effect of botters/AFKers, it was a fail still because the coordinates bots kicked in as soon as they removed follow.
P.S : I don't mean any disrespect, that was very immature, I just hate being called unintelligent because it's the one thing I fear the most, being a clueless dumbass.
I still think the argument is dumb as **** because the majority are trolls and immature and they in no way in hell are ready to stand corrected or admit that what they're doing is immature.
By the way, Blizzlike means they're trying to keep the game mechanics and settings as closer as possible to that of the retail. "SETTINGS" plural noun: settings
1.
the place or type of surroundings where something is positioned or where an event takes place.
"cozy waterfront cottage in a peaceful country setting"
synonyms: surroundings, position, situation, environment, background, backdrop, milieu, environs, habitat; More
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a speed, height, or temperature at which a machine or device can be adjusted to operate.
I'm pretty sure that refers to Multiboxing as well.
Calling it out for the night, good night and I'll be back tomorrow for the argument.Edited: September 28, 2015
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lol please stop
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Technically, the competition that happens is people group up to wipe us, also, there are lots of private servers to go but people choose to stay over at Warmane regardless of the amount of Multiboxers.
I insulted you because you've tried to insult me, in which case it was very immature and I shouldn't of had insulted you back considering the fact that it wasn't worth it anyway, but I get you, you just got bugged by Multiboxers a lot and you're desperate for that to be over... I mean I get your side but from our side, we just want a chance to multibox at a good blizz-like server because the majority of us don't want to pay Blizzard anymore because of the changes.
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Why? What income are you giving to Lordaeron at this time, to compensate your toleration? Please give me an answer, I'm confused as to what you think you are giving to Warmane from this ._.
Well, one sided discussions usually lack interest and considered dumb, something we agree;)
Why say 100 multiboxer's? I know your community took a hit in MoP but I am pretty sure you would not be down to 100...please. So that entire equation, pointless. Though I am curious as to what engineer you are thinking of to earn that much, $10k=£6591. I am mates with a test engineer for a fibre-optics company and he doesn;t even get half of that a month. Maybe the whole economics crap comes into play, which I have no idea how much that affects everything. But besides the point, 100 multiboxers out of the 3.3million copies of WoD sold (in the first week alone, can't find the figures for all time), gtfo.
There are plenty that ruin bg's on Warmane alone, yes I see a lot try to raid SW on Nelth, but it is slightly more than the amount in bg's.
Agreed, the ones that somehow got away with /follow afk (most likely smart enough to check every few minutes on their toon) got ****ed over and yes the Co-ord bots came in...for like a few month till that huge purge of them all shortly after. But yet, if Blizzard intended to remove /follow to get rid of those /follow afker's why did they never tell that to all those salty multi-boxers?
Let's agree we both hit an immature side there and not mention it again then.
Meh I don't really care about other people's reasonings, the only thing I care about is the fact that 'No' is heavily outweighing 'Yes'.
Sorry but when it comes to explaining the terms of a private server's style of play, I will believe the staff member over a server player. Obvious reasons of course.
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Because no matter where you go there are Multi-boxers. Because the major server's (by that I mean top class scripting etc) need the P2W aspect to fund it all, and Multiboxer's are such a huge income.
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Why this crusade against multiboxers? Can't you two just go your own way?
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The point of this thread is discuss Multiboxing on Lordaeron and why it should be kept/removed. We are discussing it...why are you on a discussion thread if the discussion bothers you? :^)
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Implying implications. :^)
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The only argument people who want to forbid the multiboxing:
This is allowed on official servers because we must pay all accounts.
But stop all the time repeating that we know. The multiboxing has always been allowed on Warmane. It has never been a real problem except when you fall once against a multiboxer in BG, you start crying it's unfair, they have no skill etc ... But know that it's harder to play multiple characters, sometimes different classes, than to play one properly (I do not speak of those who play 15 shamans, but multiboxer who plays several classes, takes care of the heal, tanking ...).
Try before you criticize and you will see that it's much harder than playing only one character.
After, it's still a hardcore realm, you will only see very few multiboxers, and those there will not have 25 accounts.
If it bothers you so much, you can still prohibit Arena and BGs. But atleast let the Wild PVP and PVE available.
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Implying you even care o.O
