Pandaria [noobquestion] status of each 3 spec

[lumine99]

sooo hows each 3 spec performing right now??
I planned on taking Marksman/Survival. Marksman on stationary/less movement encounter, and Survival on encounter with lots of movements. Still on leveling phase right now but Marksman feel kinda overpowered. Though it might be a little different on dungeon/bosses.

and how's BM right now? somehow it never really clicked to me but I might be convinced otherwise.

thanks

[Rupeklis]

your talking PvE, surv is at bottom right now, noone is playing it. BM is toping dps charts, MM is in the middle

[lumine99]

Thanks for the reply. I'll look into Surv on what's bugged. Cheers dude

[Summerwind]

Some dps test numbers if you may like it:

BM: Burst 260k/Sustained 155k/Lowest 142k
MM: Burst 190k/Sustained 150k/Lowest 150k
SV: Burst 175k/Sustained 135k/Lowest 129k

ilvl 523 [Full PVP geared - trinkets: Bad Juju/ Vicious Talisman of shado-pan assault]
Proffs: LW/Engg

[Aurumwz]

I have a question!
What are the best stats (for each spec) for the pve?
Thank You :3

[Summerwind]

I have a question!
What are the best stats (for each spec) for the pve?
Thank You :3

BM -> Crit -> Mastery -> Haste [haste affects pets too giving them more basic attacks but i prefer crit simply because of the huge chunks of health crit attacks can take out] - If you bring into consideration the meta gem and the cape, haste is better
SV -> Crit Haste||Mastery (you could go crit mastery haste too but usually haste is preferred)
MM -> Crit -> Haste -> Mastery

PS: Stuff will change around when the legendaries hit, haste becomes one of the top next to crit for sv/mm and bm too however with T16, they will be more or less the same with mastery being very good for BM

[Aurumwz]

BM -> Crit -> Mastery -> Haste [haste affects pets too giving them more basic attacks but i prefer crit simply because of the huge chunks of health crit attacks can take out] - If you bring into consideration the meta gem and the cape, haste is better
SV -> Crit Haste||Mastery (you could go crit mastery haste too but usually haste is preferred)
MM -> Crit -> Haste -> Mastery

PS: Stuff will change around when the legendaries hit, haste becomes one of the top next to crit for sv/mm and bm too however with T16, they will be more or less the same with mastery being very good for BM

Thank You very much!!
Well, I've an other question :D
I've seen the hunter guide of the Method Guild (on the retail) and there I've seen for the BM hunter: Haste > Mastery > Crit.
I know we are on the Warmane server, but... why crit is the most importat stat(after Agy and hit/exp cap)?

Ty :3

[Summerwind]

Thank You very much!!
Well, I've an other question :D
I've seen the hunter guide of the Method Guild (on the retail) and there I've seen for the BM hunter: Haste > Mastery > Crit.
I know we are on the Warmane server, but... why crit is the most importat stat(after Agy and hit/exp cap)?

Ty :3

In retail the reason for going haste mastery crit is simple - The meta and cloak procs drastically increase with more the haste you have (granted, RPPM system is in place but lots of people agreed on the meta gem part). The stat weight at higher ilvls smoothens out much better than say at 553 ilvl. Haste decreases autoshot timer, decreases cobra shot cast timer and decreases pet melee swing time along with focus regen increase which means more basic attacks. mastery directly increases pet damage and with all of these taken into account, higher ilvls will benefit more from haste =| mastery and crit in the respective order. You could go mastery haste and crit too. You could check EJ if you like. SimC results concur the same. Inspite of playing the class for quite a while, i still cant recollect the numbers lol. In short, reforge changes only with the meta gem in itself!

[Furiz]

Anyways this is not retail, hunter damage here is lower than it was on retail MoP both pve and pvp.

[CONQakaSUESEHT]

Anyways this is not retail, hunter damage here is lower than it was on retail MoP both pve and pvp.

Whaaaaat? I read this fives times and still can't believe, are you freaking daydreaming? At first it looks like you have not ever played hunter on FW. Hunter and generally every other class is doing superior dps compared to retail at the exact stage of gear/content available. I am pretty sure that hunters in ToT nm on retail were not doing 250-300 k steady dps + hitting full grevous enemies for 150k+ with their chimera shots... I am sincerely waiting complete buffstacking and scaling fixes just to see what players like you say then.

[Furiz]

Whaaaaat? I read this fives times and still can't believe, are you freaking daydreaming? At first it looks like you have not ever played hunter on FW. Hunter and generally every other class is doing superior dps compared to retail at the exact stage of gear/content available. I am pretty sure that hunters in ToT nm on retail were not doing 250-300 k steady dps + hitting full grevous enemies for 150k+ with their chimera shots... I am sincerely waiting complete buffstacking and scaling fixes just to see what players like you say then.

Yes bro that's exactly what was happening,

hunter here cant hit 150k chimera on full griev enemy without zerk+burst, chimera usually crits around 100k and it has a 9 sec COOLDOWN, while a warrios for example comes arena and spams 120k slams on a full geared enemy + his bleeds do 35 - 40k crits from such slams, not to mention chaos bolts etc... no CDs on those abilites.

you gonna say now that is not true?

check this for a chimera shot please (no burst or zerk):


Check my armory character named Furiz you can see the gear/gems/chants

37k Chimera on full geared DK = 74k if it crits, now say this is OP please for a 9sec cooldown spell, he didnt have defences up.

[Rupeklis]

im looking at that combat log, if i didn't see Glaive toss in it, i would say its Cata dmg, thats how low they are. Is this taken form BG or arena, was it blood dk?

[Furiz]

im looking at that combat log, if i didn't see Glaive toss in it, i would say its Cata dmg, thats how low they are. Is this taken form BG or arena, was it blood dk?

Look again, you should see glaive toss.