The Merits of Disabling Dungeon Finder

[Venomski]

RDF is an amazing tool created by Blizzard, but implemented so bad. All they had to do was making it server restricted and it would be perfect.. but guess what - thats what we get here. A perfect tool to give us a better gameplay flow while we ALSO skip the toxicity from meeting people for the first and the last time. I for one am 100% on the RDF wagon and hope it will hit for the appropriate patch (since were following the releases in order here). Just my 2 cents.

[linkoynn]

You would do the same in a randomly formed group? That is exactly what people do in dungeons, I do it and have seen countless people do it- clear content without giving a damn about the rest of the ****.

I can't comprehend what makes people think that traveling from a city to the dungeon entrance enhances your "content experience" because what happens is- 2 people mount up, travel and summon the rest, every single time, every. Throughout my leveling progress I did dungeons, lots of them and I do them at 70; the second so called advantage of disabling RDF was to make people meet up and make new friends, but it has gone the same way around just without the RDF. I have met some good people but literally 0 new friends who I'd even talk to in my spare time let alone consider exploring content with them, and that's after leveling 2 characters. I'm fairly certain there are a whole lot of people just like me. Disabling it has done nothing but hamper the overall experience- a lot of people give up forming groups because they cant find tanks, this has happened to me numerous times. And in many of those instances someone in the group was able to invite a tank from their guild or friends list- maybe a tank who would've joined the group but didn't because he wasn't on global/LFG or just not paying attention. The only debatable points about disabling the RDF I believe are the disadvantages of the extra XP and gold and can be retorted.

My point is that if the majority of people want it, it should be done regardless of maintaining its "hardcore" status, for that matter does disabling it make the server more hardcore, or just another hindrance in the playing experience.

While I do not have enough time to scroll around forums digging realm information, What I've seen around are forum posts basically from Obnoxious and others posting "This is a design feature, if you dont like it, this server isn't for you". Now I am unaware if a poll was conducted to identify the popular opinion of the players that actually play on the realm and then it was incorporated as a design feature of the realm. If that's not the case, how can it be said that its a design feature, I mean the players and server are here for each other. Just blatantly pushing a "feature" to the players without any concrete basis is unfair. I wouldn't like to debate whether it should be done or not, what I would like to question is if the majority of players that comprise the realm want it, would Warmane do it? Also, this is a beloved server, and I don't think this a make or break feature for most of the realm, which wouldn't affect the population of the server. A lot of people will still play if its disabled, even if they want it enabled.

Actually, u value a good group or a good player, u socialize with him and u help eachother whenever u can, thats what no rdf brings to the table.
"the second so called advantage of disabling RDF was to make people meet up and make new friends, but it has gone the same way around just without the RDF" Thats just you not socializing enough or valuing the group as a whole, or in other words u thinking u are superior to others and they are not even players in your eyes.A single-player mind.
"Just blatantly pushing a "feature" to the players without any concrete basis is unfair." Whats unfair is, getting your account banned for absolutely no reason.Server rules and features were made clear before the opening, if in your eyes you see something unfair, u simply dont play.Also something like this cannot be "unfair" regardless if it was announced or not, because it cannot be "unfair" for xx amount of players and fair for xx amount of players, considering everyone has to do the same thing.You just want to have easy time farming dungeons, and not socializing with others, and thats fine by me, but dont go around the forums trying to change a feature that was clear before u even created your toon.
Dont think the majority of people matter on this case, it has the same "merits" for everyone and as such it cannot be unfair for some and fair for others, unless by majority you mean 90-95% of people, which is not nearly the case here. ill throw some RANDOM numbers, even if by some poll 60-70% want rdf, 30-40% dont want it, keep in mind that most likely about 50% of the population doesnt even care if theres gonna be rdf or not.
I would think u might have some valid points, if this realm was 2 years+ old, but thats also not the case.

[Gosker]

RDF is an amazing tool created by Blizzard, but implemented so bad. All they had to do was making it server restricted and it would be perfect.. but guess what - thats what we get here. A perfect tool to give us a better gameplay flow while we ALSO skip the toxicity from meeting people for the first and the last time. I for one am 100% on the RDF wagon and hope it will hit for the appropriate patch (since were following the releases in order here). Just my 2 cents.

RDF introduced in 3.3.0 patch (the Fall of Lich King) along with ICC raid, until then please hold your whining till last quarter of 2016

tho unlikely =)

[Carposo2]

Please read: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....lm-Information

DESIGN FEATURES
Realm name: Lordaeron (Public Test Realm)
Expansion: Wrath of the Lich King 3.3.5a
Release date: September 25, 2015
Rates: 1
Dungeon Finder disabled

6th ****ING line...

This is like going on Insta 80 servers and ask them to put blizz like rates.. It`s the realms design.. not happy? plenty of other servers around.

[wahyutri]

Can someone give me even one? It was a feature people clamored over so much in vanilla and BC, it works well, opens up more content to more people, saves time and effort, and encourages meeting more people and interacting with others much more. And it does all that while reducing frustration for everyone involved.

Right now we have a god awful jumble of a global chat where no one can have any decent discussion or have any questions answered through the LFG spam. People are forced to spam trade and local just to have their LFG messages seen, lower level dungeons are ghost towns and new people joining the server can't find groups for any but the most common dungeons pre-60.

I'm very interested in hearing what benefits disabling this very useful system brings to us users. I must be seriously overlooking something, because it seems like a big blemish on an otherwise perfect server.

Best merit of Disabled RDF : it drives off most of the filthy casuals

[Zane2001]

We don't need an RDF but a Group Finder would be nice.
You select the Dungeon you wish to group for, you select your role & it auto groups you up with others for that Dungeon & that's all it does, No free gear, No extra exp.

Now the rest is up to you, you need to make your way there & summon others, then begin on your lovely Dungeon Adventure.

Only merit to not having a RDF is not having the extra rewards you get from it.
Doing LFG in global does not increase the chance of more social interaction between players.
Not having a RDF does not mean players are forced to see the content the staff have done, as you can simply if so wish just dungeon now from 15-70

The staff have made it clear they don't want RDF on this server ( is their logic flawed? ) possibly but it is their server.

[jhjhgjhg]

There are no merits.

They probably just didnt feel like fixing RDF.


The only arguments are completely irrelevant like :
1 It was a design idea by staff.

Yeah also not being able to change your race was a design idea. So why did one of admins changed from gnome to undead? His name is Kappa. Is there a RDF for admins only too?

2 You can leave if you dont like it.

3 Its terrible because it makes the game more enjoyable, you dont need to waste 30 minutes afk checking facebook while autoruning to dungeon. /sacrasm

4 Looking thru RDF spam and whispering "inv, dps" or "who can sum" is really socializing and enjoyable.

5 "This is hardcore realm" Yes, hardcore means that instead of getting teleported instantly you now need to wait 10 minutes till 2 party members get to the stone and teleport you. such hardcore

[linkoynn]

There are no merits.

They probably just didnt feel like fixing RDF.


The only arguments are completely irrelevant like :
1 It was a design idea by staff.

Yeah also not being able to change your race was a design idea. So why did one of admins changed from gnome to undead? His name is Kappa. Is there a RDF for admins only too?

2 You can leave if you dont like it.

3 Its terrible because it makes the game more enjoyable, you dont need to waste 30 minutes afk checking facebook while autoruning to dungeon. /sacrasm

4 Looking thru RDF spam and whispering "inv, dps" or "who can sum" is really socializing and enjoyable.

5 "This is hardcore realm" Yes, hardcore means that instead of getting teleported instantly you now need to wait 10 minutes till 2 party members get to the stone and teleport you. such hardcore

This guy doesnt even know the rdf has nothing to be fixed on.

[KarkazZ]

Please read: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....lm-Information

DESIGN FEATURES
Realm name: Lordaeron (Public Test Realm)
Expansion: Wrath of the Lich King 3.3.5a
Release date: September 25, 2015
Rates: 1
Dungeon Finder disabled

6th ****ING line...

This is like going on Insta 80 servers and ask them to put blizz like rates.. It`s the realms design.. not happy? plenty of other servers around.

fo·rum (fôr′əm)
n. pl. fo·rums also fo·ra (fôr′ə)
1.
a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.

Read the 2nd ****ING line and shut up?

Nobody on this topic inclined that they don't know the design features, that doesn't mean the community can't debate the pro's/contra's of not having RDF.

[Obnoxious]

fo·rum (fôr′əm)
n. pl. fo·rums also fo·ra (fôr′ə)
1.
a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.

Read the 2nd ****ING line and shut up?

Nobody on this topic inclined that they don't know the design features, that doesn't mean the community can't debate the pro's/contra's of not having RDF.

Read the second line, and replace it with "privately owned."
The community is allowed to discuss things, even pointless discussions such as this one, sure, to a certain point.
Certain dead horses eventually are taken away from the beating.

[Skoobydoo]

Every ****ing WOTLK server have RDF i am very happy we got 1 w/o it. literaly most unsocial **** that have been added to MMOrpgs.you queue up do the dungeon get the bonus exp leave.queue up again same ****...no even need to do quests anymore.tnx god they remove it from lorderon.i miss the days pre 3.3 when you see someone and say " hey i know this guy we use to level together and run dungeons".or when you add to friend list all healers and tank you can possible get so you can ask them to come do dungeons with you later.that do not exist in WOW after RDF system.
and about not been able to find a group well..that because on retail before RDF there was LFG window where you can see party leaders or players post msg about dungeons.

[slymania1]

One point I'd like to make is that yes, things now are alright without a DF. However, at lvl 80 you'll want emblems.
Now, one could argue that you can get emblems and even farm them without DF.

Yes, and it will be all around the clock Nexus farming like it was in early wotlk. RDF just makes it more convenient and adds diversity.

[Radvo]

Best merit of Disabled RDF : it drives off most of the filthy casuals

You spend 30 minutes auto-running/on flight path/on zeppelin, you must be such a damn hardcore gamer while checking the forums, facebook, talking with friends, etc.


Shame on me for wanting to play the game rather than do anything else but play the game while doing a pointless trek so I can play the game.

[Syladis]

Another topic about RDF. When you gonna learn...

[Crum]

Or an alternative semi-solution would be to try out CallToArms: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....Lordaeron-Edit

Your welcome.