1. Why NOT to play a Hunter

    So, why should you not play a hunter you might be asking yourself? Here's why. If you have any hope of having a decent chance of PvPing in arena think again. "Deterrence" doesn't even work 50% correctly, and any rogue/druid main attack breaks right through it (not blizz-like). I have multiple open bug trackers with numerous different skills that are ignored. "Master's Call" still doesn't work correctly as pet AI is stupid, and some snares don't break after they've been applied previously to casting the skill. "Roar of Sacrifice" doesn't block criticals that are 100% like from a shaman, even though Roar of Sacrifice should supercede that. And the killer. Auto Shot (our main dps) is so broken, that it bugs out on almost any scenario that invovles casting,channeling, knock ups, and knock backs.

    Here's why you should play a hunter. You can tame pets and go all carebear. You can roll face in World PvP if you're fast enough on the burst, you can go stand in arena and get your face stomped in. You can have your autoshots bug in raids and cry as the pally out dpses you. Enjoy!
    Edited: January 14, 2016

  2. well you can suck balls as this guy here, or you can learn how to play it :)

  3. You can have your autoshots bug in raids and cry as the pally out dpses you. Enjoy!
    Well I have never been outdpsed by pallies ever since I started PvE, which was like 4 months ago.. I have been rarely outDPSed and in every one of those cases it is some other hunter. So if a paladin really does outDPS you, maybe you should stop playing World of Warcraft at all and play.. IDk? Super Mario Bros? Just care for the turtles, as they hurt, or you'll end up crying about that too.

  4. well you can suck balls as this guy here, or you can learn how to play it :)
    this guy is complaining about game-breaking bugs which are ignored for months.

    this doesnt have to do anything with his skill

  5. Not sure what expansion that is. But as old wotlk fixes on last june, I don't think you'll get outdps by a ret

  6. 1) PvP is more dead than Polly the parrot on Deathwing and Ragnaros. No one cares honestly. Blackrock is working perfectly as far as I know. Some abilities are supposed to bypass detterrence, like Chaos Bolt. Backstab and Shred, well yea, that ****'s broken on molten but it's molten, what'd you expect?

    2) RoS vs 100% crit modifiers is like the unstoppable force vs the unstoppable wall. It's pretty funny when you think of it. Not sure how it's SUPPOSED to work, and how it worked on retail. But meh, if it's only those few spells you have to worry about critting, then chill out. I used to play for years straight here, when RoS did nothing (I repeat: nothing, it didn't protect you from ANY crits whatsoever).

    3) Macros fix the autoshot bug. Anyone that's played here for longer than a week knows that.

    None of these bugs prevent you from getting rank 1 in arena, let alone casual world pvp or bgs. It's annoying as f*ck, but that's about it. Same goes for PvE btw, rets are still amongst the best, but so are hunters. You should be able to easily top dps on most encounters, and be a very close second right after rets in a few encounters. Hunters have positive bugs, like the double-dipping chimera shots, which is why they're so good on molten. Not sure why you complaining.
    Edited: January 15, 2016

  7. I forgot to put it under the correct xpac and server. Anyway, you're right in that it doesn't prevent rank 1 and such, but it sure as hell makes it a huge challenge not being able to stop sac or block a huge 40-50% of your hp crit to your face.

  8. I forgot to put it under the correct xpac and server. Anyway, you're right in that it doesn't prevent rank 1 and such, but it sure as hell makes it a huge challenge not being able to stop sac or block a huge 40-50% of your hp crit to your face.
    LOL impossible to get rank 1 as hunter.

    Way too many key abilities are not working as intended. Not to mention that BM is unplayable right now.

  9. are u guys talking about wotlk (old)?

  10. are u guys talking about wotlk (old)?
    Loreaeron wotlk server

  11. LOL impossible to get rank 1 as hunter.

    Way too many key abilities are not working as intended. Not to mention that BM is unplayable right now.
    Said the 1200 rated player :D

  12. Well you cant be rank 1, there are better combos out there and skill cap is damn high for hunters.

  13. Said the 1200 rated player :D
    Sorry buy since I read your guide I cant take you seriously. Dont even bother replying.

    Well you cant be rank 1, there are better combos out there and skill cap is damn high for hunters.
    Its not about combos.

    But its impossible to get rank 1 on Lordaeron when all improtant abilities dont work.

    Deterrence, disengage, readiness, masters call, Roar of Sacrifice, autoshoot, pets....

  14. Well you cant be rank 1, there are better combos out there and skill cap is damn high for hunters.
    You can be rank 1, but me saying that was merely a way to say that you can easily be high rated. Even if you can't get rank 1, you can still get an easy top 10 spot, which is good enough. There's barely any competition on Lolten.

    The skill cap for every class is damn high. Heck - the skill cap for this entire game is high.

    Sorry buy since I read your guide I cant take you seriously. Dont even bother replying.

    Its not about combos.

    But its impossible to get rank 1 on Lordaeron when all improtant abilities dont work.

    Deterrence, disengage, readiness, masters call, Roar of Sacrifice, autoshoot, pets....
    You're saying they don't work. They work for 90-99%, they just don't work completely like they should. There's a huge difference.

    -RoS doesn't work on spells that have 100% crit chance, that's an insanely minor bug.
    -Detterence doesn't work like it should in 3.3.5, but that's how it worked during the earlier wotlk stages. You think there were no high rated hunters in any PvP bracket because of the fact that they could get Backstabbed through detterence? Think again.
    -Readiness doesn't reset the CD of freezing arrow? Pretty annoying, but you won't get in a situation where you readiness for a DR'd scatter/trap very often to be honest.
    -Master's call apparently got fixed, not sure if it's fixed for every spell, but it should be better at least. https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/13950
    -Autoshots can be easily fixed by putting !cast auto shot in all your macros.
    -Pets are bugged in what way? The pet LoS has always been buggy here, which doesn't matter all that much if you're playing mm/surv. Their health used to be 12k on average, which was the most gamebreaking bug back then (on top of the fact that RoS didn't do anything). Get a crab. some extra macros, and pay extra attention to your pet, and you should be good.

    But hey... I guess I don't know ****. And I guess you'd be rank 1 in every bracket if only hunters weren't so broken...

    TLDR: L2P, the bugs are annoying, not gamebreaking.

  15. You can be rank 1, but me saying that was merely a way to say that you can easily be high rated. Even if you can't get rank 1, you can still get an easy top 10 spot, which is good enough. There's barely any competition on Lolten.

    The skill cap for every class is damn high. Heck - the skill cap for this entire game is high.



    You're saying they don't work. They work for 90-99%, they just don't work completely like they should. There's a huge difference.

    -RoS doesn't work on spells that have 100% crit chance, that's an insanely minor bug.
    -Detterence doesn't work like it should in 3.3.5, but that's how it worked during the earlier wotlk stages. You think there were no high rated hunters in any PvP bracket because of the fact that they could get Backstabbed through detterence? Think again.
    -Readiness doesn't reset the CD of freezing arrow? Pretty annoying, but you won't get in a situation where you readiness for a DR'd scatter/trap very often to be honest.
    -Master's call apparently got fixed, not sure if it's fixed for every spell, but it should be better at least. https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/13950
    -Autoshots can be easily fixed by putting !cast auto shot in all your macros.
    -Pets are bugged in what way? The pet LoS has always been buggy here, which doesn't matter all that much if you're playing mm/surv. Their health used to be 12k on average, which was the most gamebreaking bug back then (on top of the fact that RoS didn't do anything). Get a crab. some extra macros, and pay extra attention to your pet, and you should be good.

    But hey... I guess I don't know ****. And I guess you'd be rank 1 in every bracket if only hunters weren't so broken...

    TLDR: L2P, the bugs are annoying, not gamebreaking.
    Iam talking about Lordaeron only, I am not enough stupid to play (or even take seriously) on deathwing or w/e other molten wotlk realms there are.

    I dont know wtf are u talking about, but damn molten is strong with this one.

    RoS=such insanely minor bug when instead of geting 2500 ambushes i get 5k ambushes= 10k more damage= lost game

    Deterrence is a joke. I have 100% HP, warrior charge->bladestorm me. I use deterrence right after charge stun ends and i die because whole bladestorm goes through deterrence. https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker?f...=&t=deterrence

    I know that you are molten pvper so i dont expect that you know what frost trap is. Thats why you think its a minor bug and BTW DR in world of warcraft is 15s and not 30s.

    Pet los doesnt mather? Again molten is strong with this one. Blades edge arena, I jump down but my pet stays stuck on the rope and i cant use any pet abilities.

    And to the hp thing, crab is supossed to have -+16500 hp with my gear but it has 12k sometimes 13k. https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker?f...%5B%5D=&t=wild

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