1. On the JoJ matter, just a word of advice, I don't know if you need it, but I'm gonna throw it anyways.

    GMs don't really care why you exploit something that shouldn't happen. If you get a video of a LK kill and someone reports the video with JoJ kiting, you'll probably get banned. This has happened with many guilds before, (getting banned for exploiting sth as counter-measure of an atrocious molten bug) and I don't doubt that this can happen with you, anytime.

    Random example:
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    My guild got banned in 2013 for pulling Halion "late" in 3rd phase (boss hp at ~47%) and thus we were considered to abuse that 3% of corporeality. We did that to pull the boss with MD, as if done otherwise at that time, boss would randomly target a person. Now, think of, not only did we abuse sth to counter-measure a molten bug, but we also got banned for something that their script doesn't do (boss should starti instantly instead of standing there like dummy, we got banned for not "correcting" the script by instantly pulling it).


    Long story short, I'm not here to judge you guys, nor what you can and what you cannot do. I'm just advising you to be careful, as I'm quite sure that if this is get reported with video evidence, the ban will probably go through.

    P.S: And about the question: "But what is bannable and what is not". There's always a simple answer to this question. By experience, and I think everyone can agree to this, it seems like, bannable is whatever action shouldn't take place on retail and someone is doing that action willingly here. What the gains of this action are is not defined, but judging by people getting banned for being in spots they shouldn't, even if there's no gain (managing to get yourself behind the bank tellers in dala bank) the ban should be issued, if there's enough proof always.

    Congrats on the 100th RS kill btw! I wish I had time and will to count ours as well. Also, a question, what's the current progress? What's the number of weekly kills?

    With respect, Mirmigios.
    Edited: January 26, 2016 Reason: grammatical/syntax errors

  2. The fact that the both of you condemn certain things you deem as "exploits" yet blatantly make use of others (e.g. stacking on pp, typhooning viles mid air, killing ragings with necrotic, taunting infernos, stunning valkyrs and ignoring the fact that taunts should have diminishing returns in general) clearly proves this isn't a hard stance against illegitimacy. It's nothing but a witch hunt. Whether your comments were meant to be passive-aggressive in nature or not, this is not the place for this discussion so lets leave it at that. With the import of Lordaeron scripts in the not too distant future, all this is trivial, not to mention the fact that any discussion surrounding the area of exploits will most likely be pruned by mods, further compounding the diminutive nature of this discussion.

  3. As I said in my previous reply, I'm not here to judge, and neither did I say that I'm a warmane saint myself. As I marked "certain things" like JoJ as exploits, I also mark the ones that my guild uses, like typhooning viles mid air and killing ragings with necrotic, exploits too. My comment wasn't meant to be passive-agressive, it was nothing more but sharing my thoughts in form of advice, but since it doesn't seem very welcome here, I will refrain from doing so again.

    EDIT: Generally, in my post, I didn't "condemn" any of your guilds' actions, and I think that's very clear. Also, naming something an exploit doesn't mean that I'm not using any as well, and never have I implied that.
    Edited: January 26, 2016

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    like it matters, u joj exploit anywhy, ez lyf

  11. like it matters, u joj exploit anywhy, ez lyf
    1v1 noob kid?

  12. like it matters, u joj exploit anywhy, ez lyf
    idk why....but i heard <Aurora> deleted all videos of RS 25hc when banhammer for corporeality exploit started.... TSK TSK

  13. Open a ticket and ask a GM if using JoJ is against the rules. While you're at it, you should also ask if killing your Raging Spirits abusing Necrotic Plague during the first transition phase isn't bannable too.
    Necrotic plague is something that lich king casts itself, its not a user cast spell . When people used hurricane on gsb it was a user cast spell used as an abuse, when people used freezing traps in Rs hc it was a user spell cast abuse, when people used to taunt marrogar on bone storms to bug the boss it was still a user cast spell abuse same way when u use joj on lk to slow it down its a user cast spell abuse and it affects the fight hugely. Pls dont compare a necrotic plague to something you use to abuse by choice using joj.

  14. Necrotic plague is something that lich king casts itself, its not a user cast spell . When people used hurricane on gsb it was a user cast spell used as an abuse, when people used freezing traps in Rs hc it was a user spell cast abuse, when people used to taunt marrogar on bone storms to bug the boss it was still a user cast spell abuse same way when u use joj on lk to slow it down its a user cast spell abuse and it affects the fight hugely. Pls dont compare a necrotic plague to something you use to abuse by choice using joj.
    >it affects the fight hugely

    bye

  15. idk why....but i heard <Aurora> deleted all videos of RS 25hc when banhammer for corporeality exploit started.... TSK TSK
    rofl, wtf are u talking about, maybe watch saturday/sunday's streams then, ye we stream... guess that's smt new for u

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