Hello folks!
I was wondering:
We have a lot of spam on global and sometimes you can't even get what some1 is typing and you need to get your shovel and start digging in chat history to get what you want. Soooo i was wondering ( no hate plz) if it is possible to do something to dungeon finder that it would only allows to form a party -> you que only for specific dungeon with selected role and it would get you a party without teleport to instance, without addittionals rewards from instance, nothing more but just forming a party that would allow to stop a spam on global.
If it would be possible players still can spam global with party offers, but i think it would allow players to start using global to chat each other/ get more informations about things on server without need to dig in chat history
What do you think about it? Is it even possible to do something like that to dung finder?
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Dungeon groups
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Open group finder addon, is what i recommend, shame they moved it away from this forum, no one has a clue where it is now, and no one will use it.
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Hey,
actually 5 days ago they released an addon for this. It perfectly fits your description.
http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....-Beta-(OpenGF)
But we need more people to use it. Cause at this moment you can only hardly find groups. Inform your guild and friends.
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Nobody uses the addon
And warmanes ******ed decision to disable the Dungeonfinder has drastic effects on the leveling experience. Finding a dungeon group while leveling often is completely impossible, especially if you arent a healer.
Doesnt get much better on 80, tons of people spamming in globalchat while 690 balkan guild spammers are effectively ruining the global.
Everyone is spamming for Hours and they still dont find people, probably because lots of people disabled the Globalchat. Lets see how the long term effects on this are going to be.
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I have never had trouble finding dungeon groups even at low levels. I usually don't even use global for that. Straight-up whispers to people of similar levels have worked wonders for me. And since most of the zones have traffic, using general also works.
Even though I am in favor of having RDF disabled, I would want to see some initiative to use the other chat channels. (eg. restrict guild recruitment / LFG from global....) Even the old way of having the trade chat in cities spammed with garbage would be better than the current option, imo.
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I suggest you learn how to form a group, It's not rocket science and I've not had a stitch of trouble grouping for any dungeon as dps.
The only long term effect so far is the constant wave of tears from the group of bumders who require the game to be played for them at the push of one button.
"wahh i had to leave stormwind while leveling 15-70.. Waaaah qq, i quit, **** server qq, waaahh"
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I could not agree with you more! 100% +1 I hit 60 yesterday on my spriest and formed a group in minutes for Ramparts and Blood Furnace and I choose to try and heal as shadow and the tank a frost dk and we have only minor trouble, last boss of BF was bit of a *****, but that was it. Everything else was a breeze and we were done with both in the hour.
I just don't know what people complain about, I really wish Blizzard wouldn't have made RDF so rewarding, user friendly, and Auto-Porting to and from the dungeon. Typical Blizz Dev, always over thinking things and ruining the fill of the game.
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Agree that rdf is too rewarding, sometimes you have luck and you can get your party ultra fast, sometimes you need a really long time to get party. Check thing that not everyone have time to make a party and look for mates to play, so thats why i'm asking if it is even possible to do rdf(?) that would only make us if we que into him, nothing much, no teleport, no extra rewards, just program that would search party members for us, yeah it is lazy but watch that not everyone want to spam global "LFM ....." or whisp to every player within his level range asking about dung.
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I like this suggestions. It worked wonders in TBC, so why can't it work here? TBC was awesome, and it had this feature; no one complained that it made game "too rewarding", "too easy", or "too casual".
Plus, it's not hard work. RDF already has the function to search for players and create parties. All you need to do is turn off its teleport and reward functions, and you got a nice feature to help people find each other easier instead of spamming in chat channels.
The only downside I can think of is the fact that RDF might cause performance issues. I remember in one of the private servers that I played long ago, they had it disabled because it caused lag for some reason. Though, I suspect Warmane has really good hardware to take care of that (besides, it worked on the old Lordaeron, didn't it?).
+1 for suggestion, buddy! We need to make this happen, so that we can socialize with people we want better instead of having to listen to all the crap trolls have to say on global chat.
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yay thanks for approval
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That's what we're trying to explain to you. A simple Spam Macro
/6 LFM (Dugeon Name) Need Tank, Heals, and DPS and Good To Go!
Can get you a group just as fast as RDF. You might wanna consider if you're having trouble finding a tank or a healer that RDF wouldn't really be able to fix this either as it could be a community problem. I know plenty of people that roll DK's, Warriors, and Paladin's that refuse to tank and even more Druids, Priest, Shaman and Druids that refuse to heal.
New Flash:
I've leveled my Shadow Priest from 10 to 62 now as shadow and have healed everything up to Blood Furnace.
If you're having trouble with finding groups, make one. Having issues finding a tank or a healer, be one. At low levels its easy enough to get back with out a deticated heal.tank spec.
Be the solution, not the problem.Edited: February 9, 2016
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I would love if warmane would implement TBC's group finder tool rather than having nothing at all.
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The idea behind the suggestion is that it will allow players do what they came here to do.....to play, while the system finds the group for them, so they will then play with others.
At the current state, you have all people spamming for people in global to the point where you won't be able to read the messages quick enough. In addition, it hinders your ability to play. So, if you want to do a dungeon, you can't go quest and kill stuff while looking for people. You have to use chat, wait for replies, and, as you mentioned earlier, tanks/heals are not that easy to find. This whole process removes all the fun and becomes a constant capitalistic race as to which company(group) hires the best candidate (player) for the job (heal/tank/dps) faster, so that it can profit from it.
Bottom line, this isn't about being a problem or a solution. The solution is already out there, it's just not accessible for some illogical reason*.
*illogical reason - disable RDF to socialize between players.
Socializing over global is near-immposible due to constant streams of spams and trolling (This is not exaggeration. I believe most of the people would agree on this.)
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Oh well, Warmane says no and it's a no. Kind of wish Blizzard had the balls that Warmane has, at least then I could feel like WoW wouldn't be the current dump it is now and I could be there playing instead of here having this pointless conversation.
but since we're at it, can you please define, "here to play the game"? How exactly does the current system stop people from playing the game? Is it preventing them from connecting to the server or something? Without RDF people are having such huge bugs that there's just no way to play in the open world? Am I missing someting?
Like I said in my previous post, I can form my own group in minutes as long as there are enough people on in the bracket i'm wanting to run with, not to mention as a priest I get asked to heal dungeons all the time and I do and have.
I still don't get how not having RDF is really hindering your playing experience when really it isn't. You're just having to play WoW in a way that you're not use to.
I'll say it again, No RDF isn't stopping you or anyone else from playing, it's just stopping you from playing how you wanna play and as staff here is the one that makes the call and they make the call without the consent of the community (that which i think is awesome) you're just gonna be stuck playing how they feel people should play mmo's. Like or leave, not like you have to pay to play here.
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RDF was really good for leveling however at 80 it was pretty crap. You would get horrible groups and people would just quit mid run or cause all sorts of problems. In the end most people just used LFG chat to find groups like they do now. However after a group was put together they would then queue for their instance of choice using RDF because spending 10 minutes flying to nexus does absolutely nothing to improve the game and rdf gave bonus emblems.
Now by disabling RDF you've made no difference in the game experience for people who didn't want to use it in the first place, and made the game slightly less enjoyable for those who did. There are no winners here just a net negative experience for players as RDF was never required to play and those who prefer to form groups using LFG could always still do so.
The people who argue that there is some benefit to flying to the instance are probably the same group who sit in Dalaran or Org pretending to be busy while the others have to fly out and summon them.
To conclude disabling rdf is just imposing someones stubborn views on others with no benefit to themselves and though I myself would never choose to use rdf for finding people for HC's I do see why some would want to and can't think of a truly good argument against it.
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