So I know i'm going to get some trolls here, but still, here we go.
Yes, this is a "hardcore" server, whatever that means, but I don't think this should mean fights should be this ridiculous.
First of, why is Naxxramas still overtuned?
Naxxramas 10 is now litteraly irrelevant, yet it is still so buffed it requires an overall GS higher then the loots in the raid, and a very specific comp / strats. This is WOTLK, its the expension where all classes / specs are meant to be viable and playable, yet here we are making very specific raid setups to kill stuff just because of ******ed buffs (this doesn't concern only Naxx 10 though)
Conclusion : Remove Naxx 10 buff
Naxxramas 25 is still kinda relevant, but also overtuned. Why? Because if you're a new level 80 on the server, or a new guild, you currently still have to go through the hard process of farming HCs and a few MONTHS of overtuned naxxramas just to catch up on Ulduar because its so ridiculously buffed too.
Conclusion: Reduce by half Naxx 25 buff (if not more)
Ulduar 10, I haven't tried it out yet, but from what I've seen although doable it seems very hard and needs a nerf. Nothing crazy, but still a nerf.
Ulduar 25 well Leviathan is okay, just as it should be, Ignis, XT, Kologarn and Hodir could use a little Hp and damage reduction but are okay.
Razorscale on the other hand is impossible. I don't care if that one guild that tryharded it for 10 hours got a kill using a very specific setup kitting adds or dancing naked in the moonlight, Razorscale is ******ed and NEEDS a nerf.
I will not even go over some HC fights because well, pretty even the staff noticed they are overtuned as hell and needs a massive nerf. 96M HP XT HC, lol.
Now as far as Freya, Thorim, Mimiron and so on goes, they need a nerf in HP by about 30% to be close to anything I may call "fine".
Regarding the Council, making the stormcaller immune to kick is like.... Well what? Isn't this blizzlike? Isn't it the strat to kick his casts?
Now overall Ulduar 25 is overtuned, even for fully BIS naxx / OS / EOE raids, not to mention the fact that it's unaccessible for newcomers.
Some bosses that I mentionned only need a small nerf (10 - 30% at best), while others would still be tough with a 50% nerf, which is dumb.
Most feedback I heard other then people trying to showoff like "we killed it, so it's doable, stop complaining" is that Ulduar is currently not viable, not fun, and most guilds are having people leaving because of this or seriously considering to stop raiding, as so am I.
Don't confuse Hardcore with dumb, and hard fights with just overtuned bosses with dumb HP. Lava on obsidium sanctum one shotting? Sure, thats hardcore, thats the strat, should be avoided, don't mind if its buffed.
1M HP adds on razorscale hitting stronger then Patchwerk in naxx? Bosses with a ton of HP? Thats not hardcore, its stupid.
Also, please fix Emalon 25 and reduce his HP as well.
Thanks for reading.
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Nerfing raid content
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Yo ... Its gonna get nerfed over time same as nax. For now you should go and play nax until its nerfed or you have enough gear to progress. Stop crying...
Edited: May 6, 2016
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Ofcourse you have to farm Heroics to get PRE Naxxramas BiS, get professions and gems/enchants. You were never supposed to jump straight into raiding, this is why retail failed. If you expect to jump straight into ulduar on your new character or guild you are misstaken, skipping content is dumb and should've never been possible to do. It's called progression for a reason, you need to progress through all previous content in order to enter the latest raids. This only makes sense, if you think otherwise theres really no point in discussing this with you. You're better off playing the other Highrate realms on Warmane or sticking with retail. Because this is a progressive server for a reason, to progress and not to skip content wether you like it or not.
And as stated above, i'm sure content will be nerfed to an extent as the server keeps progressing further.Edited: May 6, 2016 Reason: Adding more context
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Don't respond to gad777x, he is just a troll shame who like his e-penis
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Here are some questions :-
1. Why was Trial Of Champions dungeon was launched with Trial Of Crusader raid ?
2. Why were FOS, POS and HOR launched with ICC launch ?
The answer completely fails your statement
"You were never supposed to jump straight into raiding, this is why retail failed"
Yes, because Blizzard knew the facts !
Once the majority of guys reach to TOC content, there will be almost none doing lower raids like Naxx/Ulduar and it will block the platform for new players on the realm. This is why Naxx had no heroic or hard mode implemented and it was easy to do raid for fresh 80's as well.
You really think Blizzard launched the content like a baby firing the gun ?
They had well versed thoughts and reasons for whatever they launched in WOTLK, for whatever the changes or updates they implemented !
You and I have just 1 brain, but Blizzard has many brains working for the same !
If you still think that Blizzard did things wrong, you are completely mistaken and out of thoughts for this issue.
Everything you hold is hatred against Blizzard for what they did in MOP and further more.
Rise above hatred and think a bit why actually blizzard made those changes !!
Let me give you a future view of Lordaeron
1. HC Dungeons :- You will see people ignoring even 3.5k GS guys for a heroic dungeon just because they want to get done with daily HC asap, which will be a push-back to new players.
2. Naxx raid / Ulduar Raid :- Naxx 25 wont be happening at all and if it does, it will take around 2 hours to just fill the raid. It will be a pushback of like 4-5 months to any new player to actually farm these both raids and get ready for TOC. So yes, if Trial of Champions is buffed as well, then RIP. Trial of the champions should be a doable dungeon for a minimum of 3.6k GS players.
P.S. Yes, i am counting the change of emblems as well in hc dungeons.
3. TOC Raid :- With ICC out,TOC pugs will happen for sure but GS requirement will be high enough and you will randomly see some #LazyToFarm guys spamming "This reserve, that reserve .... because you are not high gs as we are, so you dont deserve"
4. FOS / POS / HOR :- The real pushback of 10-11 months to any new player if these instances are overbuffed as well. Which leaves kind of no point in joining the realm until its an alt of a good guild player or a high amount donor to get gears from coins.
I really hope Warmane staff keeps the future in mind as well and wont block the way of new players in this glorious realm !
Totally agreed on the challenging part of scripts, but just don't make it dumb thing on normal modes just for sake of 1% guys.
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Completely agree with the suggestion as is a realistic one, well exposed and looking for the good for all players in warmane servers. I would love that game developers think in that way
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i would like to take out naxx 10 man buffs at all and lower naxx25 a bit so any decent pug raid can clear it in 3-4hours.
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Bloodshedsword makes a very valid point that I could have developped more.
We're not saying that you should be able to jump straight into Ulduar as soon as you ding 80, but having to farm HC's for 2 weeks and then NAXX 25 for 2 - 3 months (and i'm being generous), IS a problem.
Ulduar should be nerfed a bit as I stated above, but previous raids should also be drastically nerfed, and Naxx 10 shouldn't be buffed at all. At least allow newcomers to discover Ulduar BEFORE TOC comes out.
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And I want more buffs give me moooore hardcorness
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Pugs ? you dont say ....
i would never take a pug for filling even last spot in our grun unless that guy belongs to a proper guild.
not alone me, there are many who had nightmares about pugs on deathwing
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Yes me too
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Yes me too
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Thank you, finally someone with a ****ing brain.
Piss off casuals
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waaaa too hard , i wanna free loot , i wanna clear ulduar with fresh green geared 80lvl , waaa nerf
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I don't know a single raid guild who has EoE / Naxx / OS on farm who even goes to EoE / Nax / OS anymore....Good luck new 80's who ding on this server hope you enjoy doing nothing but a couple heroic 5 mans b4 u log out or go venture into broken 2v2 arena....No Raid guilds worth a damn are venturing into EoE / Naxx / OS anymore because the bosses have so much HP its not even worth wasting a raid night in there anymore. They should be scaled down they are almost a half a year old content on this server.
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