WotLK [Guide] Combat PvE

**verminslayer** · April 23, 2016

cap is still at 22/23 im almost 100% sure, had around 21 expertise on my dk, only had 1 dodge through out an entire boss fight 25hc.

**~~Selaya~~** · April 23, 2016

I did an uld10 on the PTR with 22 expertise and it recorded several dodges throughout it

**Qtinz** · April 23, 2016

Originally Posted by Selaya

I did an uld10 on the PTR with 22 expertise and it recorded several dodges throughout it

I've bee monitoring my stats since I read about an increased expertise cap and I haven't had a single dodge in a boss fight with 22 expertise on my paladin - 23 icc bosses, 2 voa. Recount shows some dodges and even parries for trash, though.

**Rommler** · May 5, 2016

Hello,

Whats is the best gemming choise with t7 set ? AP or ArP ? I rode that arp gemming is better when I will reach the arp soft cap without gems ?

**~~taralej~~** · May 6, 2016

It's AP - you just don't have access to enough ArP yet to make it worth stacking. As soon as you get Grim Toll or Mjollnir Runestone and some decent ArP gear, you should switch to ArP.

On a side note, Assassination heavily outDPSes Combat at this content and especially on Lordaeron because of the 3.3.x patch being applied to 3.0 content (Deadly Poison, Master Poisoner).

**Rommler** · May 6, 2016

Originally Posted by Rommler

Hello,

Whats is the best gemming choise with t7 set ? AP or ArP ? I rode that arp gemming is better when I will reach the arp soft cap without gems ?

Ok thanks ! And what if i have already Grim Toll (but no gear with ArP) ? I must stay in AP anyway ?

**~~taralej~~** · May 6, 2016

Yes, stay AP.

**nafta1999** · May 10, 2016

As a fresh 80 ( still doing fos and pos ) what should i get first with vote points ?

**~~taralej~~** · May 10, 2016

Trinkets. STS, then DBW. It will also remove the hassle with trying to roll for both of these, as they're BiS for pretty much every physical DPS.

**brainrust** · May 10, 2016

I'm curious if Rogues perform mostly as well on Lordaeron as they did on retail. I remember them being amongst the top 3 DPS throughout Wrath. Is this the case here, or is there a large difference?

**~~Selaya~~** · May 14, 2016

Dummy data is meaningless as they do not dodge at all (unless it got fixed recently)

GR412 · May 20, 2016

Would we be able to get a full rotation for maxiumn dps? I'm not sure what other abilities to use aside from sinister strike and rupture for the early build. I haven't played wow for years and I can't remember much. Sorry if this appears to be a noobish question.

**maxiikiing** · May 20, 2016

Originally Posted by GR412

Would we be able to get a full rotation for maxiumn dps? I'm not sure what other abilities to use aside from sinister strike and rupture for the early build. I haven't played wow for years and I can't remember much. Sorry if this appears to be a noobish question.

I'm used to play this rotation:

2x ss > snd > ks > ss till 4/5 cp > rup > ss till snd fades (max. 4/5 cp) > snd > spamm evi till either rup or snd fades > refresh snd/rup with 4/5cp

**~~taralej~~** · May 20, 2016

Well, what maxiikiing said is pretty much it. I mean, Combat doesn't really have a rotation like DKs - you just have to keep SnD and Rupture up all the time and fill with Evi. That's all. How well you manage this, together with your cooldowns, is what makes you better.

GR412 · May 20, 2016

Originally Posted by taralej

Well, what maxiikiing said is pretty much it. I mean, Combat doesn't really have a rotation like DKs - you just have to keep SnD and Rupture up all the time and fill with Evi. That's all. How well you manage this, together with your cooldowns, is what makes you better.

Oh so no need for any stealth attacks?

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