So what reason do you actually have to run 10 man raids?

[Aleastraszabcde]

If only the best managed to clear it, shouldn't it be toned down a little bit so the rest has a reasonable chance.?You have to keep in mind that not everyone can become as good as "the best" and it prevents them from gaining progress forever.

[Xemni]

At the start of the server people got gear from 25 man raids then raided ten man. And all those "top" guilds exploited the hell out of naxx at the start and the fcking bug of beacon of light.. The only reason they cleared nax so easy at start was paladins healing twice the target of beacon and then goin with 4k gs at tten man saying its a breaze... You didn t do nax 10 with 3,3k gs average or you did with main tank being 4k and healers too and dps being lower.... But i still think you are trolling hard..

This is interesting.. I didn't know it was that much easier in the beginning for some guilds.

Interesting enough, I think its funny my guild has zero bosses downed in Naxx, but we have flame leviathan killed in Ulduar. Not saying that Flame Leviathan is by any means a hard encounter, just think its cute for us to get gear to do naxx, we have to go into Ulduar and farm the first boss, and the trash after for gear drops.

[wedemboys]

This is interesting.. I didn't know it was that much easier in the beginning for some guilds.

Interesting enough, I think its funny my guild has zero bosses downed in Naxx, but we have flame leviathan killed in Ulduar. Not saying that Flame Leviathan is by any means a hard encounter, just think its cute for us to get gear to do naxx, we have to go into Ulduar and farm the first boss, and the trash after for gear drops.

why isn't your guild farming heroics?

we cleared Naxx 10 and Naxx 25 in heroic gear.

[Xemni]

why isn't your guild farming heroics?

we cleared Naxx 10 and Naxx 25 in heroic gear.

My guild IS farming heroics lol Where in this thread did I state we weren't? I also believe in the very first post it says we're all heroic geared. Please read before posting.

[wedemboys]

My guild IS farming heroics lol Where in this thread did I state we weren't? I also believe in the very first post it says we're all heroic geared. Please read before posting.

"just think its cute for us to get gear to do naxx, we have to go into Ulduar and farm the first boss, and the trash after for gear drops."

[Pergolino]

why isn't your guild farming heroics?

we cleared Naxx 10 and Naxx 25 in heroic gear.

^this

P.s. Try to manage your classes better, anyway try different strategies and ignore, but not at all, Retail ones.

[fayl1861]

1) this COMPLETELY breaks the normal progression lich king is supposed to have, a fundamental aspect of the endgame.
2) blizzard did not tune things this way for a very good reason
3) it promotes elitism
4) I quit, leveling is not worth it if the endgame is completely broken

[Greedman456]

1) this COMPLETELY breaks the normal progression lich king is supposed to have, a fundamental aspect of the endgame.
2) blizzard did not tune things this way for a very good reason
3) it promotes elitism
4) I quit, leveling is not worth it if the endgame is completely broken

1)Yes
2)its an 8 year old expansion so someting should have been done for it to be interesting for peopl who have done it a lo
3)Yes(who cares)
4)who cares?

[Kamaqt]

How do you think the guild did naxx in the start of this server? We ran naxx our first time with a 3.3k avarage group. It was hard and took time but we did it and so can everyone else aswell. Dont complain cause you cant play your class well enough.

Wich part of ''ENTRY RAIDS'', you dont understand?

[terrorpk]

^this

P.s. Try to manage your classes better, anyway try different strategies and ignore, but not at all, Retail ones.

Basically he's saying Gkick your prot warrior for an overpowered Feral Bear with so much hp he can negate all the one shot bugged mechanics and a prot paladin off tank so even if the bugged 1 shot happens he can get carried by ardent defender procs. Also be sure to stack DK's/ Warlocks and buffer ***** boomkin for the locks and get carried by overpowered spells.

[Exerion09]

Basically he's saying Gkick your prot warrior for an overpowered Feral Bear with so much hp he can negate all the one shot bugged mechanics and a prot paladin off tank so even if the bugged 1 shot happens he can get carried by ardent defender procs. Also be sure to stack DK's/ Warlocks and buffer ***** boomkin for the locks and get carried by overpowered spells.

mad cuz bad

[Xemni]

"just think its cute for us to get gear to do naxx, we have to go into Ulduar and farm the first boss, and the trash after for gear drops."

This is just further proof you're not reading the thread lol but i'll break it down for you, since its evident you need it bruh.

1. We're heroic geared.
2. Naxx 10 is overtuned.
3. Heroic gear is not enough for Naxx 10 on this server
4. To bypass this, we've been doing Flame Leviathan, getting ULDUAR gear, to COMPLIMENT our Heroic Gear so that we can actually do a raid that is a few tiers below it in progression. Which is cute, because it completely breaks the order of progression of this expansion.
5. Read the thread before you post.


On a side note, we downed Razuvious on 10 man last night. Then attempted Noth in the Plague Quarter, and watched him chunk our tanks for similar amounts of chunk like Anub. We're done with 10 mans. We're going to just go to 25 man Naxx, at this point the 10 mans aren't worth it. By the time we get the gear for 10 mans, we'd be geared for 25 mans. Its like the only point of setting foot in it at this time is for achievements.

[Keniteklol]

10m is doable but u need good raid composition and good players. Even then the amount of effort u put it takes to clear bosses isn't worth the loot. If u can't get to saph then don't bother doing 10m waste of time.

[refyo]

I had a try at naxx10 under similar circumstances. All heroic gear, some people a little overgeared. The only Boss we killed was Anub'rekhan. At first, we killed the adds and were doing him the normal way. We had not enough damage, the fight was long and somebody died at some point. Then we noticed the adds are not hitting the tank at all. You just need to offtank them all and nuke Boss. This was pretty disappointing to me tbh. "Overbuffed", but doable because some mechanic didn't work. (I'm not saying here it is impossible to kill him while killing adds, but it is only "hard" on a stupid level, not really because the mechanics are fun, his stats are just too much. )
Then we went to Faelina and the enrage dispell didn't work. She was just oneshotting our tank. I heard that in 25 man they simply kill adds, nuke Boss and brezz tanks if they die.

I decided to quit raiding here. I wanted to play on a casual level, this dosn't work here, thats how it is. But np.

[wedemboys]

2016 and people still think min/maxing your character is "hardcore" lol