As combat rogue nope.
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A Sinister Strike does pretty much the same damage as a Garrote, even higher as your ArP goes up. However, it can also crit, giving you an extra CP through Glyph of SS. So that makes Garrote pretty much useless from a Combat perspective.
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Okay I understand a bit more now, thank you all for the quick replies.
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You said that assassination heavily outdpses combat on Lordaeron, so does that mean it's better on AoE fights (Gothik, Razorscale, Freya etc) aswell?
And also how much gear do I need to get before combat becomes worth playing?Edited: June 1, 2016 Reason: grammar
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Hiya
I play a combat rogue at 3.9k gs dealing around 2k-2.5k dps, is that good or should it be much higher at that gear level?
I have IP on my main hand and DP on my offhand.
Also, when i fight bosses in dungeons etc, i start with shiv until i have 5 stacks, then go for a rupture at 5 combo points (adding in SS if i have to),
before spamming SS to build combo points and alternating between eviscerate and rupture (Rupture tends to just pass in this time).
Is there any specific reason why spamming SS off the start is better than this? Considering that building up the DP DoT ASAP can be a priority?
Also, since i have a dagger in my offhand, shiv is 10 energy cheaper than SS
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3.9k GS tells me absolutely nothing of what kind of gear do you have.. But yeah 2-2,5k dps at such GS is bad.
Poisons're fine.
You don't use SHIV in PvE, unless it's to dispel NPC enrages with Anesthetic Poison II. + Shiv is Off hand attack therefore u can't compare it with Sinister Strike whose damage comes from Main Hand weapon.
There's a reason why combat rogues HAVE to get Slice and Dice ASAP - apply the deadly poison is one of the reasons and u get 5 stacks of DP real fast.
Sinister Strike crits for 8k shiv hits for 1,5k(just an example), also it's not used to do dmg. If ya use it for dmg, it is like using gouge and kick to DPS and that's just really wrong.Edited: June 1, 2016
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Guys, just wanting to confirm, does Assassination or does Combat have the higher DPS ?
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Don't be lazy and read the main post. It expalins what, why and how.
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Since all your trinkets and enchants dont procc within the first 2-4 hits anymore i'd like to slightly change my opener, coz i dont wanna use ks without the majority of my proccs. Which modifications would you guys recommand?
I used [ 2x ss > snd > ks ] for ages. Shall i use ss more often before snd? What are your suggestions?
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I have read the main post regarding, the what, how, and why of both the assassination and combat pve guides, Id just like to confirm on this server which spec tends to have the consistently higher dps due to bugs, etc. I used to be an assassination rogue in Retail, and understood it to be the dominant spec with the exception of Ruby Sanctum where Combat was more viable.
Its not about being lazy, just wanting to reconfirm on this server which is better.
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Combat outperforms Assassination in BiS gear
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Thank you very much for the response :D
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Does anyone play rogue on Lordearon? Since it's in Ulduar content how much of this applies? What would my BiS be right now? Also since the raid bosses are crazy buffed, no one will take you into Naxx 10 until you pretty much already out gear the raid. With green mainhand and half heroic gear my combat is sitting at about 2k dps in heroics. Any advice on what I should be trying to obtain/ any difference in rotations at this point? Should I switch to Assassin until ICC for dps reasons?
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Updated the guide, following recent bug research developments. All current bugs are listed, together with their bug-tracker links.
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Bump. Evisc fixed. Prey on the Weak still randomly not increasing crit dmg.
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