What GS do you need to be for people not to whisper harass you in BGs?

[KasadaR]

Even at almost 1400 res bis rogues still hurt a ton. Most rogues from 5.8 and lower though you should fair a lot better.

[dazzb]

At the guy asking for tips on gear I will start with ret if you mean via vote points get yourself a Deaths choice or whatever its called on ally side, Deaths Verdict? IDK something like that.
For holy I would say a solace but some would argue bauble of true blood. Anyway both are PvE trinkets that are a pain in the behind to get.
If you want tips on honor gear, get 2 pieces of furious first and foremost, the 100 extra resil from wearng two helps alot. Probably hands and shoulders firstly.
And finally if you want to aim for a Arena points item, get the flash of light libram as soon as you can regardless of your spec preference.

[DakMonkey]

About 5k.

You are smart enough to understand that having a team full of low geared people is frustrating right ? If you are, then you understand how bad your post is. If you die in one hit, your place is not in a bg. A bg is a team work and if you can't help the team, don't join it.

Can you actually get to 5k GS with Rep/heroic/badge/wg farm? (Because you can't really get in to raids either with <5k gs.)

There's ofcourse 10 games per week in arena for free arena points and +25 arena points from leeching one victory in BGs every day. Any other suggestions on how to get gear?

Personally I don't get frustrated when low geared people with 2k or 3k gs join BG (Even when I'm playing on near BiS characters) both sides have BiS geared people and both sides have Low geared people, on average it evens out fairly well.

[cebolenkosi]

Even at almost 1400 res bis rogues still hurt a ton. Most rogues from 5.8 and lower though you should fair a lot better.

I don't think 1400 resilience for rogue is a good idea. Depending on what you can get you should have PvE 2-3 offpeices items(neck, boots, belt) and if you can get HC even the normal version of ICC 25 man daggers are good weapons and either Death's Choice, DBW or STS for your trinkets slot or slots if you play human rogue. A rogue should roll with 1k-1.1k resilience max.

[cebolenkosi]

Even at almost 1400 res bis rogues still hurt a ton. Most rogues from 5.8 and lower though you should fair a lot better.

I don't think 1400 resilience for rogue is good idea. Depending on what you can get you should have 2-3 offpeices items(neck, boots, belt) and if you can get HC weapons and either Death's Choice, DBW or STS for your trinkets slot or slots if you play human rogue.

[Uraharald]

Do not mind them mate, play at your pace. What are they going to do - report you for having to low gearscore? Dont think so.. xD

[Moohammad]

Can you actually get to 5k GS with Rep/heroic/badge/wg farm? (Because you can't really get in to raids either with <5k gs.)

There's ofcourse 10 games per week in arena for free arena points and +25 arena points from leeching one victory in BGs every day. Any other suggestions on how to get gear?

Personally I don't get frustrated when low geared people with 2k or 3k gs join BG (Even when I'm playing on near BiS characters) both sides have BiS geared people and both sides have Low geared people, on average it evens out fairly well.

"Can you actually get to 5k GS with Rep/heroic/badge/wg farm?"... yes you can. Quite fast actually especially if you are alliance since wintergrasp is won by alliance most of the time. Fos and pos give you at least 3 or 4 items and if you can get carried by someone in heroic fos - pos, and you have luck with drops, even better.

"There's ofcourse 10 games per week in arena for free arena points" ... play 10 games. Win, lose, doesn;t matter. Play 10 games and get those points.

"leeching one victory in BGs"... well this is where the problem comes. In bgs there isn;t only one or 2 lowbies who think like this,. There are bgs where 90% of the people have 2 - 3k gs because a lot of them think like this.

How many bgs will you ruin til you actually get carried in one and win it ? Why not leave the bgs alone til you get gear ? That's just pathetic.

"Personally I don't get frustrated when low geared people with 2k or 3k gs join BG" ... well a lot of people do (me included). It;s just pathetic to see your team with 2k gs while the other team has decently geared people. Even when i fight bad geared people i don't like it. A bg is a team work. If you can't help your team, don;t join the bg.

So ... how about instead of ruining bgs for other people, lowbies get some decent gear and then join ? It's not that lowbies can't get gear, it's that they DO NOT want to. They only want to be carried.

[DakMonkey]

"leeching one victory in BGs"... well this is where the problem comes. In bgs there isn;t only one or 2 lowbies who think like this,. There are bgs where 90% of the people have 2 - 3k gs because a lot of them think like this.

How many bgs will you ruin til you actually get carried in one and win it ? Why not leave the bgs alone til you get gear ? That's just pathetic.

How many BGs will I "ruin"? From my experience so far, I "ruin" 4-6 / 10 BGs. If 90% of players in BG is low geared, I don't see any problems, then it's mostly low geared vs low geared, nothing ruined. Or are you saying that Faction A always has bad geared people while Faction B always has good geared people? Because that doesn't sound realistic.

Why not leave the bgs alone? Because 25 arena points each day (and the extra bonus honor from first win) adds up and helps with the gearing a lot. 10 games of 3v3 gives 302 arena points per week, daily first win gives 175 arena points per week. 175 arena points is a nice bonus to the weekly 302 points. So is it worth "ruining" other peoples BGs for that 175 extra arena points? Well considering that 90% of the BG is low geared anyways, I see no reason to be the vegan and not get those points myself.

[Moohammad]

How many BGs will I "ruin"? From my experience so far, I "ruin" 4-6 / 10 BGs. If 90% of players in BG is low geared, I don't see any problems, then it's mostly low geared vs low geared, nothing ruined. Or are you saying that Faction A always has bad geared people while Faction B always has good geared people? Because that doesn't sound realistic.

Why not leave the bgs alone? Because 25 arena points each day (and the extra bonus honor from first win) adds up and helps with the gearing a lot. 10 games of 3v3 gives 302 arena points per week, daily first win gives 175 arena points per week. 175 arena points is a nice bonus to the weekly 302 points. So is it worth "ruining" other peoples BGs for that 175 extra arena points? Well considering that 90% of the BG is low geared anyways, I see no reason to be the vegan and not get those points myself.

"From my experience so far, I "ruin" 4-6 / 10 BGs" ... holy smokes. That makes you both useless and a dead weight.

"I don't see any problems" ... O_O .

"then it's mostly low geared vs low geared" ... your logic amazes me. How did you get to this ? You do realise what you just said is pure cowshift right ? Since you ruin 6 out of 10 bg, that should give you a hint that it's NOT lowbies vs lowbies. If it were like that, then you would have equal teams and you may actually have a decent lowbie vs lowbie fight. But in this case, you have a lowbie vs at least decently geared people. It;'s too hard for you to understand right ?

"Faction A always has bad geared people while Faction B"... alliance has way more gearless "censored" people than horde (at least from my pov since when i q and i play quite often, i get to fight a lot of gearless alliance players).

"25 arena points each day " ... facepalm. I guess the part where you ruin 6 (or more) out of 10 games for the other people doesn't bother you too much. Hell, who cares about the team if YOU get to take 25 points after you waste almost a day. /clap

"10 games of 3v3" ... go 2v2


" So is it worth "ruining" other peoples BGs" ... "censored". You IQ must be so damn low on top of you being a selfish useless "censored".

"considering that 90% of the BG is low geared anyways" ... because most brainless people think like you.

I have no idea why i wasted my time with you. Somehow i knew you would not be capable of understanding what i'm saying and it seems i was right. FAIL.

[KasadaR]

I don't think 1400 resilience for rogue is good idea. Depending on what you can get you should have 2-3 offpeices items(neck, boots, belt) and if you can get HC weapons and either Death's Choice, DBW or STS for your trinkets slot or slots if you play human rogue.

Holy paladin talk not rogue. Read the thread prior to chiming in kthx

[DakMonkey]

"From my experience so far, I "ruin" 4-6 / 10 BGs" ... holy smokes. That makes you both useless and a dead weight.

Roughly 50% winrate in BGs = I'm useless and dead weight? Ok.

Since you ruin 6 out of 10 bg, that should give you a hint that it's NOT lowbies vs lowbies. If it were like that, then you would have equal teams and you may actually have a decent lowbie vs lowbie fight. But in this case, you have a lowbie vs at least decently geared people. It;'s too hard for you to understand right ?

I guess I should've been a little bit clearer. I don't actually feel like I ruin any games. I'm fairly sure that most games would've ended up the same even if I was replaced with some other average geared/skilled player. So far it has been pretty equal teams, both teams having some good geared players and some bad geared players. I don't know why you are being so hostile.

"Faction A always has bad geared people while Faction B"... alliance has way more gearless "censored" people than horde (at least from my pov since when i q and i play quite often, i get to fight a lot of gearless alliance players).

Ok.

"25 arena points each day " ... facepalm. I guess the part where you ruin 6 (or more) out of 10 games for the other people doesn't bother you too much. Hell, who cares about the team if YOU get to take 25 points after you waste almost a day. /clap

Like I said above, I should've been clearer. I don't actually feel like I'm ruining any games. So far every day I got my win within 1-3 games, that's not too bad in my opinion. 4-6/10 was just an average, I don't actually play 10 bgs each day. And yes, why should I care about the random people in the internet? Random people in the internet, like yourself, are calling me "selfish useless "cencored"" for no reason, why should I care about them or you over my 25 points?

"10 games of 3v3" ... go 2v2

2v2 gives ~50 points less than 3v3, no reason to go 2v2 over 3v3. I'd prefer 5v5, but the bracket seems to be unavailable most of the time.

" So is it worth "ruining" other peoples BGs" ... "censored". You IQ must be so damn low on top of you being a selfish useless "censored".

More hostile stuff for no reason.

"considering that 90% of the BG is low geared anyways" ... because most brainless people think like you.

Yes and my choices makes no difference, because most people queue with bad gear anyways. I also eat meat/fish every day and I'm not really doing anything to save mother earth.

I have no idea why i wasted my time with you. Somehow i knew you would not be capable of understanding what i'm saying and it seems i was right. FAIL.

Why are you being so hateful? I do understand what you're saying, but I disagree with you. Are you hostile, because my opinion is different than yours?

EDIT:

"then it's mostly low geared vs low geared" ... your logic amazes me. How did you get to this ? You do realise what you just said is pure cowshift right ?

"leeching one victory in BGs"... well this is where the problem comes. In bgs there isn;t only one or 2 lowbies who think like this,. There are bgs where 90% of the people have 2 - 3k gs because a lot of them think like this.

If 90% of the people have low gear, then it's mostly low geared vs low geared. Obviously it's not 90% in every bg, but I'm fairly sure on average the numbers of low geared and high geared players are pretty equal on both factions.

[romz]

There is no competition in RANDOM BGS.

Random BGs are meant for gearing up.

If you want competition get out of Random BGs and go to Rated.

Let the low geared people have Random BGs.

Don't like Low Geared people in RANDOM BGs then gtfo.

Or maybe you just don't want to carry anyone to get gear TO PVP. If this is the case GO TO RATED.

[Halfken12]

Same old stories again and again. makes me want to roll 10+char on alliance side and have them all naked to go BG Bwahahaha

[BakuraLord]

@DakMonkey As you can see, Moohammad is a pretty nervous guy. But you're right, if its true what he said )"There are bgs where 90% of the people have 2 - 3k gs") then maybe Bgs are actually for people to gear up.

[Omosh]

There is no competition in RANDOM BGS.

Random BGs are meant for gearing up.

If you want competition get out of Random BGs and go to Rated.

Let the low geared people have Random BGs.

Don't like Low Geared people in RANDOM BGs then gtfo.

Or maybe you just don't want to carry anyone to get gear TO PVP. If this is the case GO TO RATED.

>wotlk content
> rated bgs
pick one.