1. [PVP ]What are the BiS trinkets for a AP sub rogue?

    So if i dont want to donate a ton or raid to get highend pve gear and will mostly roll with wrath set + AP gems what are the best trinkets for a human rogue (pve ones i mean)? Focus being double dps 2s mostly.
    Edited: November 28, 2016

  2. if u donate:

    If you are playing a race that isn't human: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54590 + PvP medallion or http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=46082

    If you are playing full AP human rogue: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54590 + http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=47131
    If you are playing full ArP human rogue: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54590 + http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50363 (also good for ap rogue tbh)
    If you are playing human rogue and you need a little more survivability: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54590 + http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50356 shields also let u stealth with bleeds on, as long as it is being absorbed it will not remove stealth. (a good reason to play with a priest)

    If you don't want to donate, find an ingame trinket that gives AP on use like the one at the emblem of triumph vendor: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=47734 just make a macro or something to use it with shadow dance
    Edited: November 28, 2016

  3. Not sure if best, but my rogue is in similar gear and im using NES and BOV, if i could get DV i would replace BOV with it, as my arp is too low to realy stack it and NES proc timed with dance works pretty well.

    I wouldnt recommend Mark of Supremacy, being 100+ hit over cap is a major stat loss.

  4. Not sure if best, but my rogue is in similar gear and im using NES and BOV, if i could get DV i would replace BOV with it, as my arp is too low to realy stack it and NES proc timed with dance works pretty well.

    I wouldnt recommend Mark of Supremacy, being 100+ hit over cap is a major stat loss.
    I'm not really familiar with the lower Ilvl trinkets, but Banner of victory in indeed very good if you don't have the means for the trinkets mentioned above.
    Mark is pretty good if you just work with the hit rating it gives, you need 5% anyway if you get mark + ashen ring = 187 which means you are at 5.75% or something so it's no a big deal. Also the fact that it's NOT proc based makes it pretty good for timed bursting which is a major key in arena.

  5. Add Titanium weapon chain, that adds up to 215 hit . Also im pretty sure most rogues with no acces to coins run with wodin(38 hit ?), or least should.

    Timed trinket using in arena as rogue is somewhat arguable, as sub presents you with one of the most aggressive openers meaning you should dance after opener anyways since swordguard, icc ring and both trinkets will proc most likely from first swings.

  6. Add Titanium weapon chain, that adds up to 215 hit . Also im pretty sure most rogues with no acces to coins run with wodin(38 hit ?), or least should.

    Timed trinket using in arena as rogue is somewhat arguable, as sub presents you with one of the most aggressive openers meaning you should dance after opener anyways since swordguard, icc ring and both trinkets will proc most likely from first swings.
    I can agree on the hit part about the chain since the fact that it's practically mandatory and maybe even the wodin usage, but that is debatable.
    But I rather have a good burst boosting reliable trinket than some random trinket that would proc randomly and that does less of job, having a proc based setup means that you need to take the rng into account with bursting people resulting in not so ideal circumstances, granted that the really good end game ones are all proc based so you need to do this anyway.

    Also in arena I wouldn't suggest bursting on the opener unless you got a valid window of opportunity while for example the enemy partner is cc'd, since sub rogue arena in 2s is focused around creating windows to burst with cc and using that burst to kill or force major cd's, we are not build to dps constantly like for example a warrior. Having dance on cd when the opponent does a positioning mistake, pop a cd or something else that could be left unpunished can result into a bad time, a lot can happen in 1 minute.
    Of course take it all with a grain of salt, this is how I like to play, you can play it totally different and it can still work because rogue is a beautiful class.

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