Warmanes Lordaeron wins Server of the Year in the private Server Awards 2016

[Kasumii]

Yes, it is his own opinion. Nevertheless over 17,5k ppl watched his video yet.
Thats good publicity for Warmane and more ppl might join the server.
Thats what makes his video important. Makes sense doesn't it?

So that means Lordearon should now have a surge of population right?

It does make sense, but it's only half the picture. When it comes to the Wrath servers, Icecrown is like the red headed step child. It's the server that drives a lot of the income but the one that also gets left holding the bag on stuff while Lordearon is worked on. Can't even begin to get started on the state of Cata and MoP though so nuff said.

People might join the server, but it doesn't change the fact that 1x grinding is cancer and most people join private servers to raid not to relieve the perfectly scripted leveling process.

[Jakkre]

We have different concepts of importance and I'm not going to sit here discussing that semantic with you.

Yep, it seems like in ur world only the opinions u agree with are important.
Thats kinda egocentric isn't it?

In fact, from what I've seen, most of the commentaries didn't agree with his choice. Like I've stated initially; It's his opinion and for each their own.

U should know the private server community well enough to know that the haters are always louder.
In fact his video has significant more likes than dislikes.

Im actually not a dodgykebaab fan boy but its good publicity for our server and that is all that matters.

[magaginho]

Yep, it seems like in ur world only the opinions u agree with are important.
Thats kinda egocentric isn't it?

You can call me egocentric if you think that an egocentric person is a person that sits under the harsh reality and presents facts to people. Either you're able to accept them or you aren't. For me, whoever the Youtuber is, he's an individual with an opinion. Nothing else. He's no god that holds the truth and I'm not going to make my decisions based on his commentary. Like me, many others follow the same terms and patterns.

U should know the private server community well enough to know that the haters are always louder.
In fact his video has significant more likes than dislikes.

I'm completely aware that the private server community is filled with toxicity but that doesn't change the fact that each human being has the right for their opinion (as long they have a logical thought applied in that same opinion). I don't consider correct the way that Lordaeron followed since Icecrown payed the hard price for it. Like Kasumii mentioned, it makes sense but it's only half of the picture.

You have your opinion and I have mine. That's the way this is gonna work. Keep in mind that I'm not disregarding the current good state of Lordaeron. I just don't agree with the way it was conducted.

[Jakkre]

You can call me egocentric if you think that an egocentric person is a person that sits under the harsh reality and presents facts to people.

If u think that all ur opinions are based on pure facts then u are ignorant.
Humans aren't robots, our opinions are not only based on facts but always also on emotions.
For example: U dont seem to like dodgykebab and ur opinion towards his videos is always, lets call it "manipulated", by ur emotion of dislike and not only based on pure facts.

I don't consider correct the way that Lordaeron followed since Icecrown payed the hard price for it. Like Kasumii mentioned, it makes sense but it's only half of the picture.

I dont know what hard price u are talking about.
U want ragnaros and deathwing together with the buggy old core back? The development focus should be on MoP again like it used to be the case before Lordaeron existed?

All bug fixes that are applied to Lordaeron are also beneficial to the Icecrown realm. Its a win-win situation. Whats the problem here?

[OneOfAKind]

To be honest, does some random youtuber opinion deserves to be on the main page of the Warmane website? You can do better than this Warmane.

It is not a random youtuber, it is a well known youtuber in the private-server community.

If you actually watch his youtube videos, you will see that it is not directly Dodgy's opinions, more then it is actual facts. He is looking on general facts about the private server such as bugs, population, staff, lag, downtime etc. Saying there is a lot of bugs, is not a personal opinion. Thats a fact. Saying there is a lot of down time on a server, is not a personal opinion, thats a fact.

Of course, there will be some opinion related stuff, such as "great population". Some people thinks a smaller population is great, some people think a bigger population is great.

So in my opinion it would be more correct to say that he is giving facts and comparing them. So if the facts about the diffrent private servers, makes Lordaeron the best, well good job!

[magaginho]

If u think that all ur opinions are based on pure facts then u are ignorant.
Humans aren't robots, our opinions are not only based on facts but always also on emotions.
For example: U dont seem to like dodgykebab and ur opinion towards his videos is always, lets call it "manipulated", by ur emotion of dislike, even if u think that its only based on pure facts.

We're discussing semantics here but ok. First, I don't even know who the hell that guy is. If he's important, he's a nobody to me. Never heard of him, don't really care about who he is. I hold no emotion on my criticism, reason why I've stated: It's his opinion, nothing else. In the same way that you will say the same thing thowards my opinion.

I'm applying a logic behind my posts (that can be converted to a fact if you do your research before replying) and you're sitting here answering to my posts with two insults in a row. So who's the person that is applying emotions?

I dont know what hard price u are talking about.
U want ragnaros and deathwing together with the buggy old core back? The development focus should be on MoP again like it used to be the case before Lordaeron existed?

All bug fixes that are applied to Lordaeron are also beneficial to the Icecrown realm. Its a win-win situation.

Icecrown suffered the multiple scripting changes and we all saw Icecrown Citadel and Ruby Sanctum being undoable for a few weeks. Hell, if not even months. We all saw the ammount of exploits that popped. We all saw how many older fixes were broken again. We all saw how many mechanics were broken with the "new core" and we all know how many scripts were implemented on Icecrown in order to make sure that once they landed on Lordaeron they were working as intended. That's a road that can't be considered a win-win situation considering that you've made your community from Icecrown unable to enjoy the content as intended.

The core that was implemented, originally, broke more things than the ones that were actually fixed. The same core that was on Lordaeron, keep that in mind. Keeping in consideration that Icecrown has all the content available and that Lordaeron is having it's content released in a steady pace, what's the doubt? The content released on Icecrown was in a poor state, poorly tested and delivered in a really bad shape. Now, obviously, it's getting fixed here and there, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a poor change on the start of it. You shouldn't release, to a live server, content that isn't properly tested and if you do, you're making that realm a testing dummy. Did I make it clear now?

The state that things are now, they're decent. Icecrown almost fully recovered from a bumpy ride but that doesn't change the fact that I don't agree with the way that the whole change was done and with me many others. There were multiple threads about this. I was the author of one of them. Let's not turn your biased reality into a fact now, shall we?

[tyrisflare]

We're discussing semantics here but ok. First, I don't even know who the hell that guy is. If he's important, he's a nobody to me. Never heard of him, don't really care about who he is. I hold no emotion on my criticism, reason why I've stated: It's his opinion, nothing else. In the same way that you will say the same thing thowards my opinion.

I'm applying a logic behind my posts (that can be converted to a fact if you do your research before replying) and you're sitting here answering to my posts with two insults in a row. So who's the person that is applying emotions?



Icecrown suffered the multiple scripting changes and we all saw Icecrown Citadel and Ruby Sanctum being undoable for a few weeks. Hell, if not even months. We all saw the ammount of exploits that popped. We all saw how many older fixes were broken again. We all saw how many mechanics were broken with the "new core" and we all know how many scripts were implemented on Icecrown in order to make sure that once they landed on Lordaeron they were working as intended. That's a road that can't be considered a win-win situation considering that you've made your community from Icecrown unable to enjoy the content as intended.

The core that was implemented, originally, broke more things than the ones that were actually fixed. The same core that was on Lordaeron, keep that in mind. Keeping in consideration that Icecrown has all the content available and that Lordaeron is having it's content released in a steady pace, what's the doubt? The content released on Icecrown was in a poor state, poorly tested and delivered in a really bad shape. Now, obviously, it's getting fixed here and there, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a poor change on the start of it. You shouldn't release, to a live server, content that isn't properly tested and if you do, you're making that realm a testing dummy. Did I make it clear now?

The state that things are now, they're decent. Icecrown almost fully recovered from a bumpy ride but that doesn't change the fact that I don't agree with the way that the whole change was done and with me many others. There were multiple threads about this. I was the author of one of them. Let's not turn your biased reality into a fact now, shall we?

Well then I'll bring you up to speed sailor!

Hello! My name is Dodgykebaab and without trying to sound too big headed, like our friend just said I'm one of the larger known people in the private server community.

I run a YouTube channel where I review different private servers and my videos do quite well. My lordaeron review has around 170k in views alone and I'm well known on the wowservers Reddit too.

Myself and Warmane have quite the history too going from friends to bitter enemies and back to friends again. Also fun fact, I came up with the phrase molt-down when molten changed to Warmane

[Dantril]

Not sure why there's so many bitter people in the private server community. Lordaeron is a great server, and it got a well-deserved honor from someone who, like it or not, is the most influential third party reviewer of private servers.

Honestly, I think there's a pretty big gap between Lordaeron and the second best private server out there. It would be really odd if some other server won it.

[osiris123]

Not sure why there's so many bitter people in the private server community. Lordaeron is a great server, and it got a well-deserved honor from someone who, like it or not, is the most influential third party reviewer of private servers.

Honestly, I think there's a pretty big gap between Lordaeron and the second best private server out there. It would be really odd if some other server won it.

Really ? Cause i can think of a lot but i can`t name them so go watch last year`s awards. He just stopped giving them server of the year award cause most of them already have it from past years.

[osiris123]

Dodgy i kinda miss the categories for most pointless server, worst bug found,biggest disapointment and bottom of the class. Bring them back next year please don't skip on categories.

[Dantril]

Really ? Cause i can think of a lot but i can`t name them so go watch last year`s awards. He just stopped giving them server of the year award cause most of them already have it from past years.

The server that won last year rolled over when they got a scary letter from Blizzard. That alone is disqualifying to me. I won't even touch a server like that.

[Lucatiel]

I'm one of the larger known people in the private server community.

and I'm well known on the wowservers Reddit too.

As someone who's active in r/wowservers, I've hardly seen any of your videos, andI don't see anyone talking about you. Mostly that useless troll Alex, or vanilla servers that will never release. You're a small youtuber who makes news posts.

It's a nice publicity stunt for warmane, but it's also pointless. Warmane is the ONLY choice for an 80 server. And frankly, I still feel there's very little effort that went into your qq arathor video.

This is simply my personal opinion, and I apologize if you take offense to it. But as someone who's been around the pserver community for 6 years... "Dodgy is the most influential youtuber in the community?" :D (Joined: December 26, 2014 nice shill account whoever made it)


I appreciate the work that goes into your content, but I can't praise you as influential.

Also fun fact, I came up with the phrase molt-down when molten changed to Warmane

:')

[Qiana]

Nice video Dodgy. Warmane-Lordaeron deserves the Best Private Server Award.
Do not listen to the other guys, I like your videos and want to THANK YOU for the effort you put in making these reviews for us all.

[Handepsilon]

The server that won last year rolled over when they got a scary letter from Blizzard. That alone is disqualifying to me. I won't even touch a server like that.

Did you mean Nostalrius? What do you expect them to do, move overseas? Or just let Blizzard actually screws them over?

[tyrisflare]

Dodgy i kinda miss the categories for most pointless server, worst bug found,biggest disapointment and bottom of the class. Bring them back next year please don't skip on categories.

All those are in this video, but the link on Warmanes front page jumps right to their part. You need to rewind the video a little.