What made you quit retail servers?

[Deathmastered]

Then YOU dont wear it.... I already explain to you it has NO ****ING CHANGE ON YOUR GAMEPLAY! NONE!

I'd see the point if it did affect your gameplay, but it doesn't at all. It doesn't make you anything but look ****ing fabulous. Answer me, why do you CARE about what other people look like?

Because visuals is a part of a game. WoW could be good game but if it looks like **** to me I wont want to play it under any circumstances. And therefore I do care what I see on my screen. And therefore I do care what I see other people as.

[Kemii]

Because visuals is a part of a game. WoW could be good game but if it looks like **** to me I wont want to play it under any circumstances. And therefore I do care what I see on my screen. And therefore I do care what I see other people as.

Then go play games from the early 2000s.
Every game has some form of customisation. WoW was one of the last to implement it.
From every type of genre. Diablo/POE, Dota/League, CoD/OW/CSGO, WoW/Tera/SWTOR..
ALL of them have customisation in your main thing, be it skins for guns, skins for heros/champions, item transmogs etc.
The fact WoW took so long to implement something that is standard in every other game in it's MMO genre is just tragic... although not as tragic as your even more backwards thinking.

[Deathmastered]

Then go play games from the early 2000s.
Every game has some form of customisation. WoW was one of the last to implement it.
From every type of genre. Diablo/POE, Dota/League, CoD/OW/CSGO, WoW/Tera/SWTOR..
ALL of them have customisation in your main thing, be it skins for guns, skins for heros/champions, item transmogs etc.
The fact WoW took so long to implement something that is standard in every other game in it's MMO genre is just tragic... although not as tragic as your even more backwards thinking.

Then they should have left an option to not see any changes made by other players for their gear.

[Pyff]

because it cost money, and this is free. thats it.

[Baleroc]

So what was the straw that broke the camel's back for the rest of you?

I haven't quit WoW on retail yet, but I can share my experiences over retail:

I played Wotlk on retail, and thought it was okay. The levelling experience was a drag, and I would never, ever, level a toon through the wotlk zones. They are extremely boring (albeit better than BC zones though).

Cataclysm was my favourite expansion because every class I played was over-tuned, and felt fun. The raids felt better than Wotlk's.

I dislike wotlk quite heavily, and tbh, if Wotlk was not as high populated as it was, I would never play it again. It's a shallow expansion, especially compared to cataclysm. I also thought the class design in cata was much better than wotlk.

The only raids people raid in Wotlk now are Icecrown Citadel. I've only raided Ulduar once (because its long and tedious), and I rarely play ToC because it gets boring fast (with the 2 mechanics a boss (and people say its more complicated than Legion, lol)).

MoP I skipped because it didn't seem my expansion. I did play It half way through, but it was too late for me to continue, since it was 3 months after SoO released, and everyone already quit.

WoD I got a free trial for a week, and got bored.

Legion is so far one of the greatest expansions ever, and is my favourite expansion. Its questing, levelling zones, and amount of content, dungeons, raids, and in general, number of activities to do, has blown me away.

When Patch 7.3 (Argus) and 7.4 releases, then I think it will be safe to say, Wotlk will be knocked off its top spot as a general consensus.

[Laethea]

I also thought the class design in cata was much better than wotlk.

A lot of serious pvp'ers (e.g. Talbadar and Tosan) think Cata class design was the best, period. For the most part, I agree, though I think MoP made class design better for some specs (such as resto druid, which was a punching bag in Cata).

WOTLK was overrated for pvp class design- some specs made it really easy to be really dominant. A noob ret, for example, could make life miserable for a much more experienced rogue or hunter. And we all know how silly DKs were in WOTLK.

[Kemii]

And we all know how silly DKs were in WOTLK.

It's ok since Ghostcrawler left Holinka made DK FOTM and bull**** OP in PvP for the past WOD and Legion. ^_^

[romz]

My PC is too weak for Legion...simple as that...but...hunters in Legion...RIP

[Ghinbedi]

well, most of my friends quit after the MOP 5.3 patch

pvp gear was rendered relatively useless and we couldnt transform back into a PVE guild

so yea, RIP retail for me

[nerdynurse89]

I stopped playing on and off during CATA and WOD. I took a year break after WOD. I hated the grind of the Garrison. No point in leaving and exploring when most everything is in your Garrison. Came back for Legion and UGH! I cannot stand it. I guess I just miss the nostalgia of playing the unknown. Yes I have max level characters, but I would just solo old content and that was really it.

[Mercy]

@Thread, I still play. Probably will still play for years to come.

It's ok since Ghostcrawler left Holinka made DK FOTM and bull**** OP in PvP for the past WOD and Legion. ^_^

I wouldn't blame Ghostcrawler completely. But Ret has improved for PvP in those expansions as well.

[Embryo]

There's no community anymore, people just log in, do a few dailies, and LFR. It's lame.

[Handepsilon]

Because visuals is a part of a game. WoW could be good game but if it looks like **** to me I wont want to play it under any circumstances. And therefore I do care what I see on my screen. And therefore I do care what I see other people as.

This is ironically the reason why I would like transmog, especially since my toon is a gnome (Seriously, almost all WoTLK shoulder looks impractical for us midgets)

And most green and blue robes in WoTLK just looks like cultist attire, and don't get me started with the head piece. And in general, the stuff you wear just don't aesthetically fit with each others unless you're wearing a set.

TBC starts your dps (and maybe) casters in HFP with a slut-like gear (*coughblackmageweaveregaliarecolouscough*) and without dungeons you are doomed to go through most of your experience without a single robe. Even in vanilla you have to sacrifice looks for stats.

On the other hand though, transmog is also abusable to make players intentionally look like a trainwreck. So yout argument is not exactly baseless either.

[enzerutomoshibi]

Got tired of pay to play.
I have gamer ADD so I game hop a lot.
I usually go back to WoW but only after a break.
There's no point paying to play one or two weeks a month before moving to another game.

[Deathmastered]

This is ironically the reason why I would like transmog, especially since my toon is a gnome (Seriously, almost all WoTLK shoulder looks impractical for us midgets)

And most green and blue robes in WoTLK just looks like cultist attire, and don't get me started with the head piece. And in general, the stuff you wear just don't aesthetically fit with each others unless you're wearing a set.

TBC starts your dps (and maybe) casters in HFP with a slut-like gear (*coughblackmageweaveregaliarecolouscough*) and without dungeons you are doomed to go through most of your experience without a single robe. Even in vanilla you have to sacrifice looks for stats.

On the other hand though, transmog is also abusable to make players intentionally look like a trainwreck. So yout argument is not exactly baseless either.

I love the feeling I see someone and I instantly understand approximetly what gear to expect (so if it's t10-like paladin yeah the shoulders might be LDW25, but I still understand what to expect)