Why You Should Play MoP

[ogikv01]

LFR is dead because population is low. We're working on fixing that! :D

So you are only playing on ally, right? LFR is active on horde. Some guys are constantly making LFR SoO groups to teach ppl tactics and if lucky get some loot. Only recent problem in Vale of Eternal Sorrows that it bugs after you kill second boss and you can't go further to third one. Others are doable. We wiped on Garrosh on 4% two days ago in raid finder, and since rework he is really hard to kill even on normal.

[Skoobydoo]

Sorry I snipped your post, its only for readability :|

I wasn't in some hardcore mythic raiding guild at my time on retail, but literally EVERYONE I have spoken to loved SoO. I personally did not like Garrosh being the main villain, but the mechanics of the raid are an improvement over anything WotLK had, that much is for sure. As for difficulty, I think its fine. I don't see it as a negative that Garrosh was down in 10 days. It means Blizzard learned from their mistake of releasing literally unkillable bosses (hello C'thun and M'uru at launch?). There's nothing fun in banging your heads against a table only to later find out that a boss (M'uru in this case) was mathematically impossible. Anyways, Garrosh hasn't been killed on Frostwolf yet (in hc) and I haven't actively raided on Frostwolf for quite a while anyways, so I don't know how "hard" he is. I can tell you though that the fight is far more fun than LK (this is, of course an opinion).

It's fine if you don't like the PvP on MoP. When Legion launched, a significant portion of the retail gladiator community came to private servers looking for servers to play. They had the choice of Blackrock, but they chose an MoP server (which is VERY poorly scripted, mind you) over Blackrock. I'll let you ponder why that would be the case. We had some of these gladiators come to FW too, but sadly they left because of the gear difference (no conquest cap at the time).

I think people care quite a lot more about Rated BGs than you think they do. You should check out arenajunkies to see just how much they are discussed. They are very similar to Cataclysm, but sadly our Cata realm is even more dead, so if anyone wants to do Rated BGs you only have 1 option on Warmane right now.

Re: talents, that's a strong no. No-one will change their talents, ever, after being BiS. Not for PvP, not for PvE. On MoP you change talents almost non-stop, with each boss fight having a different talent needed. In PvP, on my boomie, I two different playstyles, and that requires changing some key talents (incarnation vs FoN being one of them).

Re: dampening. Dampening can never reach 80%. Games are given as a draw before that. Furthermore, your idea that a DPS can stay afk until 50% dampening and stay alive are quite... revealing. How many arena games have you played in MoP? I assure you, no-one can survive being afk in any format with even 0% dampening. You just mentioned how easy it is to CC a healer. If you stand there while your healer is afk, you will die. This isn't some exaggeration, I'm being honest, you will die. You then follow that up by mentioning how the game takes no skill, but it requires "some scripted CC chain burst setup". I don't think you understand the amount of planning needed to:
a) Ensure you have all your necessary offensive cooldowns along with your partner
b) You have all your CC off cooldown
c) You have no DRs on your CC.

sry but i agree with nothing you just said.easy PVE content mean after 2 months everyone farm the raids and top PVE guilds are fully geared,wtf do you do then for next 5 months?Kunder explain that once on his stream how this is the main reason so many competitive PVE players start quiting the game nowdays.For me at least Raids need to be hard as **** to keep people entertained for long time. current 5.4.8 SOO is super nerfed and with boosted PVE gear to 588.if guild on FW cant clear it then there is no any good guilds ont he server or the fight is bugged and its way harder then its suppose to be.saying that Garrosh better boss then LK is blasphemy.

there is no retail gladiators on FW and never was.maybe at most few people have test it and as you said they all left shortly.there was lots of Retail gladiators old AT and on OUTLAND tho.

very few people cared for RBG on retail in MOP.they was used for fast cap and selling/boosting.exactly the same apply for 2s.this is why 2s was such a nightmare on retail 1500 MMR half of the teams was 2,7k+ in 3s.with your current pop in FW RBG was not gonna happen.what do you have 2-3 teams that play weekly?rest of the time spam global for hours hoping someone will form pug group and queue vs you 1-2 games.we had problems geting RBG even back int he days when there was 4k+ nothing to say now with 1k pop.

in WOTLK people do stick with the talent they have but there is many builds that are equally good and can change your playstyle.just go check blood DK tanking guides there is so many specs and people still agrue with each other what is the best.same for PVP there is no "best" build.in MOP on other hand its all the same for everyone and 99% of players run same talents.at most you swap 1-2 spells vs some comps,or in PVE swap from AOE to single target.literally no personality at all.

a) Ensure you have all your necessary offensive cooldowns along with your partner
b) You have all your CC off cooldown
c) You have no DRs on your CC.

all this A,B,C are not even basics in PVP,they are basics in video games. you need to not be blind so you can look at your spells and RD tracker,and to be able to speak so you can tell your partners when you have cds.non of this have anything to do with understanding the game or having any PVP skills at all. they even make it so CC is unavoidable.instant poly,clone hex,shaman totem aoe stun that you can place behind the pilar and then relocate it when the charge is rdy.even if you kick the mage on 2nd poly he simple frostjaw and then repoly.there was so much CC and almost all of it was unavoidable that people on retail stop using medalion and start running x2 dmg tirnkets.go watch some old WOTLK tournament and see how hard teams have to work to land a poly on someone.and then you have the next level *****ic CC such as Blood Horror.you place a buff for 1 min on yourself that fear anyone who hit you and do not share DR with your other fears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJPXDSh5jvc

this is how PVP in MOP looks like you sit CC 80% of the game.no tnx you go ahead and enjoy the PVP in this expansion i will pass.

[romz]

sry but i agree with nothing you just said.easy PVE content mean after 2 months everyone farm the raids and top PVE guilds are fully geared,wtf do you do then for next 5 months?

I'm only going to quote this part as this logic is flawed.

No matter what private server or expansion, this can happen. In Icecrown for example, its been out for I want to say over a year at least, and people are still raiding. Any expansion can be easy, especially as it gets older and older. When you know the fights like the back of your hand it then gets easy for you. If you actually want to challenge yourself in PvE you need to make it challenging yourself. For example, going to do a raid with only white gear. Can you beat ICC doing that? Maybe, or maybe not.

[Skoobydoo]

I'm only going to quote this part as this logic is flawed.

No matter what private server or expansion, this can happen. In Icecrown for example, its been out for I want to say over a year at least, and people are still raiding. Any expansion can be easy, especially as it gets older and older. When you know the fights like the back of your hand it then gets easy for you. If you actually want to challenge yourself in PvE you need to make it challenging yourself. For example, going to do a raid with only white gear. Can you beat ICC doing that? Maybe, or maybe not.

i like how you Quote 2 sentence completely out of the context and then try to explain something that have nothing to do with what we was talking bout.
that Quote was clearly about retail raid releases and the effect they have if they are hard or easy.i never say anything about progression on private servers.

[Skuddy]

i like how you Quote 2 sentence completely out of the context and then try to explain something that have nothing to do with what we was talking bout.
that Quote was clearly about retail raid releases and the effect they have if they are hard or easy.i never say anything about progression on private servers.

why exactly are you still ranting here? we get it, you don't like mop. so don't play it.

[romz]

i like how you Quote 2 sentence completely out of the context and then try to explain something that have nothing to do with what we was talking bout.
that Quote was clearly about retail raid releases and the effect they have if they are hard or easy.i never say anything about progression on private servers.

The sentence has a beginning, middle, and end. Therefore it is a complete thought. If it was not a whole sentence, it'd be another story. It still applies to the private server scene.

[Skoobydoo]

why exactly are you still ranting here? we get it, you don't like mop. so don't play it.

because its free world and i can rant whenever i want?what now,only people who love MOP can post here ?

The sentence has a beginning, middle, and end. Therefore it is a complete thought. If it was not a whole sentence, it'd be another story. It still applies to the private server scene.

i dont think you understand what "out of the context" mean....

[Skuddy]

because its free world and i can rant whenever i want?what now,only people who love MOP can post here ?

you made your point long ago. now your just spouting the same crap over and over again.

[Skoobydoo]

you made your point long ago. now your just spouting the same crap over and over again.

same apply for Notorious- i dont see you complaining about his posts

[Skuddy]

same apply for Notorious- i dont see you complaining about his posts

he wouldn't have to post if you and tara didn't keep posting. you and tara both act as if people trying out mop would somehow hurt you.

your posts and his can be summed up as "i hated mop and you should hate it to".

[Skoobydoo]

he wouldn't have to post if you and tara didn't keep posting. you and tara both act as if people trying out mop would somehow hurt you.

your posts and his can be summed up as "i hated mop and you should hate it to".

nope we just try to correct people who try to make it look like best expansion ever existing.becuase its not even near :D

and i never said " you must hate MOP" just pointing out WHAT i hate about it.

[Skuddy]

nope we just try to correct people who try to make it look like best expansion ever existing.becuase its not even near :D

that's a matter of personal opinion. to some it may have been the best, to others it was crap.

[Skoobydoo]

that's a matter of personal opinion. to some it may have been the best, to others it was crap.

yes it is.if you can share your personal opinion i can as well :D but now you get butthurt because of it ;D

[Skuddy]

yes it is.if you can share your personal opinion i can as well :D but now you get butthurt because of it ;D

not butthurt atall. you just look extremely stupid posting the same thing over and over and over.

[Skoobydoo]

not butthurt atall. you just look extremely stupid posting the same thing over and over and over.

tnx for your concern about the way i look over the internet :D you seems to care a lot about me ;D