Retail...is it worth?

[Obnoxious]

the problem you cant even name or give examples for.sound like some illuminati **** to me.

I'm having a déjà vu.. what's it about... oh yeah: "when you either can't read what I type or purposefully ignore it to create your own version."
The problem has already been named in my first post in this thread.

[Skoobydoo]

I'm having a déjà vu.. what's it about... oh yeah: "when you either can't read what I type or purposefully ignore it to create your own version."
The problem has already been named in my first post in this thread.

this is your first post

Jim Sterling would love to have a chat with you about how that attitude is exactly what allowed bull**** like Battlefront 2 to happen.

i still cant see the problem pls explain?btw b2 dont have loot boxes they remove them before the game release soo....what are we talking about again?
also people never complained about the fact there is loot boxes they complained that you need this loot boxes to progress your char and get stronger aka do more dmg take less dmg.overwatch never had any of this problems and no one had even complain about the lootboxes there.you are making up problems that do not exist.

[Obnoxious]

i still cant see the problem pls explain?btw b2 dont have loot boxes they remove them before the game release soo....what are we talking about again?

The problem is how your attitude of "it's just cosmetic" enabled Battlefront to happen. But then again, I guess that it being removed because of the backlash erases the past and makes it so it didn't happen for you, so this is pointless anyways. You'll keep on being part of the problem, and that's no surprise.

PS:

also people never complained about the fact there is loot boxes they complained that you need this loot boxes to progress your char and get stronger aka do more dmg take less dmg.overwatch never had any of this problems and no one had even complain about the lootboxes there.you are making up problems that do not exist.

Who are these "people" you talk about? Because real ones, from the real world, complained a lot about there being lootboxes at all. Or are you talking just about others who are part of the problem like yourself?

[Skoobydoo]

The problem is how your attitude of "it's just cosmetic" enabled Battlefront to happen. But then again, I guess that it being removed because of the backlash erases the past and makes it so it didn't happen for you, so this is pointless anyways. You'll keep on being part of the problem, and that's no surprise.

so... you just admit what i said few post ago.that community know what they want and when to push back about something they dont want.the so called " problem" never actually happen because NON OF THIS HAPPEN TO THE GAME it was only in alphas and beta tests.....this is the reason beta test exist on first place,so community give some feedback.

as for overwatch who the hell complain about the boxes there?how about you go queue a game and ask other players " hey do you care about loot boxes in the game" and see what they say?

[H4T3]

Eh guys? What was the topic again?

[Obnoxious]

so... you just admit what i said few post ago.that community know what they want and when to push back about something they dont want.the so called " problem" never actually happen because NON OF THIS HAPPEN TO THE GAME it was only in alphas and beta tests.....there is reason beta test exist on first place.

I'll try to hold my laughter until the lootboxes are reintroduced, seeing as what they said is they were removed temporarily.

[Skoobydoo]

I'll try to hold my laughter until the lootboxes are reintroduced, seeing as what they said is they were removed temporarily.

sound to me like something that may or may not happen :D the facts are they are currently not in the game tho so your whole argument is pointless.

[Obnoxious]

sound to me like something that may or may not happen :D the facts are they are currently not in the game tho so your whole argument is pointless.

Yeah, EA may or may not want more cash.
I'm not gonna make it anywhere close to the reintroduction of lootboxes like this.

[Skoobydoo]

Yeah, EA may or may not want more cash.
I'm not gonna make it anywhere close to the reintroduction of lootboxes like this.

EA want cash same as every single human being on this planet.
the community have already spoken about this,EA can do whatever they want with their own game but players decide will they play the game.and it seem players know where to draw the lane.

[Sixtyninee]

EA want cash same as every single human being on this planet.
the community have already spoken about this,EA can do whatever they want with their own game but players decide will they play the game.and it seem players know where to draw the lane.

So what you're saying is that you're aware that Warmane can do as they wish and you're free to quit. Well, I think you've found your solution.

[Mercy]

Hey, guys? You see this horse here? Yeah, the dead one. Why are you beating it? Stop beating it. It doesn't owe you money.

[Pooppickle]

jim sterling would have a field day with warmane lol
if he thought the grind to get darth vader was designed to be too long to justify not buying it instead, wait til' he sees shadowmourne

[Obnoxious]

jim sterling would have a field day with warmane lol
if he thought the grind to get darth vader was designed to be too long to justify not buying it instead, wait til' he sees shadowmourne

Jim Sterling is smart and not intellectually dishonest to even attempt ignoring the fact the grind for Shadowmourne was designed in a game that didn't have an option for it to be got in a Marketplace or to make parallels between iconic characters in a game where using those characters is the main point and one specific item.

[Pooppickle]

Jim Sterling is smart and not intellectually dishonest to even attempt ignoring the fact the grind for Shadowmourne was designed in a game that didn't have an option for it to be got in a Marketplace or to make parallels between iconic characters in a game where using those characters is the main point and one specific item.

well it applies to a lot of items not just shadowmourne; players get thrown into a server where almost everyone but them is BiS and they can of course get it the hard way but there's also the shortcut. There's a few parallels with the micro transaction driven matchmaking patent in there and a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of manipulation furthered along mostly by the community raising always requirements to get into groups/guilds and blowing these people up in 1-2 shots with ilvl 284 burst damage rather than warmane themselves pushing the envelope.

the biggest difference is that wotlk wasn't designed around micro transactions, it was designed with player retention mechanics such as daily's and weekly raid/arena resets that are meant to compliment a monthly subscription, which is easy enough to swap out for the system warmane uses. As to which system is more ethical that's outside the scope of this post and best left to scholars and philosophers.

I do appreciate that neither warmane nor molten have implemented any sort of RNG transactions like loot boxes or raffles, though. That would be the beginning of the end for them even if it increased short term profits substantially.

[Obnoxious]

the biggest difference is that wotlk wasn't designed around micro transactions, it was designed with player retention mechanics such as daily's and weekly raid/arena resets

That's the only part of your post that matters. The game was designed with the grind. We didn't increase the grind or add new grinds, just an incentive for people to donate by avoiding some of the grind that was in the game all along, as we know how many donations we would receive if we were to rely on just the goodness of players' hearts being thankful.