Tank wannabies without SHIELDs are just a joke, real tanks play warrior!
Btw as a non-dk user, I made this spec, comments are appretiated :D
https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#j0E0kIhcobZhgfthMIz00bzZ0xh
Exp: As I know main threat of dk, comes from IT spam, therefore I didnt chase ability dmg multipliers unless fillers
Got lichborne and morbidity to have an extra self healing
Used 1 filler on Dark Conviction since didnt bother getting runic upgrade talent, could be used on scent of blood.
Since this was gonna be a dual-wield talent, used 3 points on Nerves of Cold Steel due %27 hit cap even though threat would come from IT mainly, didnt think it would better to use those 3 points on Black Ice.
Overall, If Im wrong about IT, then threat gonna suck on this talent, but survivality gonna be ok.
Btw, am I the only one seeing Rayman on morbidity talent :D?
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Show me the proof, where is the evidence? Link your character profile or a video, let’s see you actually using this horrible build with any progress at all.
Never gone below 35% HP lets me know you haven’t even gotten past Marrowgar? What are you, third tank? Full-time OOT? Or wait, actually, I guess what you mean is that you never go under 35% because you die instantly instead.
It’s unreal that you continue to defend (with a pathetic defense) your garbage Icy atouch macro which achieves absolutely nothing. 1 frost rune reset? + maxing out Runic Power to clip into your rotation’s natural generation?
And while I’m at it, let’s shed some light on your other aneurism macros
In what situation, would you EVER Plague Strike AFTER Blood Strike? What? Why do you write Pestillence OR Plague Strike, which are not the same rune. Why prioritise Blood Strike over Pestillence? Why do you need a cast sequence for this useless chain of buttons.
First of all, these macro’s don’t do crap.
Secondly, Why would you bind Death Strike to Rune Strike??
Why would you bind Frost Strike to Rune Strike when they share the same limited resource? Especially since you seem to emohasize Rune Strike OVER Frost Strike?!
Not to mention, what’s your obsession with Rune Strike when Rune Stike isn’t even goodEdited: February 6, 2021
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Why even make this post?
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@Bastardbottle
There is no point in going Morbidity to be honest, unless you are trying really hard to farm RDF HC as a DK tank, something I would not suggest even with Morbidity. :D
Lichborne and Death Coil self healing method wont change anything with the extra 15% increase, u can use it, but Acclimation will be more "Healing" aka "damage prevention" than Morbidity every time u face anything that does constant spell damage.
Damage spikes, especially from end game bosses are usually too big for Death Coil heal to matter (u can also use the Sigil for this every time u use Lichborne).
From my point of view, Killing Machine will ALWAYS be better than Glacier Rot and especially Black Ice.
It is a 100% 2x Icy Touches (since crits are 200% of normal damage) every time you get a proc, and for Glacier Rot you need 2 Icy Touches in order for 2nd to be increased by 20%, in case you have to swap targets for example...
Scent of Blood also might be more valuable than Dark Conviction since 1% crit wont change much, but you can never have enough Runic Power for Runic Strikes (and healing that you want to do).
Again, Dual Wielding wont give a DK anything that is unique.
U get some minor avoidance for a lot of Threat loss.
You can go Dual Wield for that extra avoidance without changing your talents, since 6 DW talents in frost tree wont give you anything, and are legit trash cans for tanking, yes I am talking about Nerves of Cold Steel and Threat of Thassarian (you can unlearn Two-Handed Weapon Specialization and get Scent of Blood 2/3 or 1/3 and max out Spell Deflection 3/3, but that wont change much).
You might say that DK does not have any threat issues, but the more threat u generate, the more self healing you can generate after, and that is the one and only thing that separates a GOOD Blood DK from a BAD Blood DK, how you handle self healing and aggro.
You can use that spec you made, or any other "meme" spec and kill any boss in the whole expansion, but it wont save you in any situation where a "classic" Blood DK tank build would die otherwise, and you will have a lot more "bad" situations where classic Blood DK tank would survive otherwise (or generate more threat).
Blood: https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#j0EMqIhc...VMhzZ0b:pimM0V
Frost: https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#j0EMoIbc...zbuhZ0o:pwmz0V
Unholy: https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#j0EMoIoc...bxcuzbk:pMmz0V
With some minor changes like:
Blood: Mark of Blood and Anticipation talents going to Heart Strike and Bloody Strikes for more threat from Blood Runes.
Frost: Lichborne and Hungering Cold in to Black Ice for more Threat, and 2/3 Acclimation in to 2/5 Anticipation.
Unholy: Icy Reach and Lichborne in to maxing Crypt Fever and/or Spell Deflection.
Overall these changes wont do much since u have enough aggro as Blood if you know how to play it so extra dodge is more welcome,
Lichborne and Hungering Cold being nice utility spells where you for sure dont lack single target threat as Frost, and 3/3 Acclimation being a better option for fights with spell damage coming your way where 1% extra dodge wont do much,
and finally Crypt Fever 1/3 is there mainly to increase the Death Strike healing effect by extra 5%, where that disease damage increase by 20% wont buff anything in your raid (especially if there is another Unholy DK DPS) and Lichborne can be a nice small heal boost in case you are in really big danger and maybe in 1/100 times will actually save your life (you can NOT go for Ebon Plaguebringer as Unholy DK tank, without dropping Veteran of the Third War or Improved Icy Touch something I would NOT suggest doing).
But overall, your spec, as a "non-dk user" is far better than the abomination that started this show for sure... :D
Also, since someone
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The main reason people think of a blood talent tank is because in current w.o.w new versions the tank properties in frost are transferred to the blood talent.
Catalism and shadowland ...
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@Gnimo
Thank you for reply. I made that spec just for fun to see what can I make and making a "dual-wield" dk tank spec actually gave me a cringe. The only benefit I see is having more pure defensive stats via using 2 x mithrios at the expense of major threat, but still expertise/hit from crytp/gloren overcomes them. Though I was thinking that you would point to Blood of the North instead of acclimation (Im not used to use runes, thats why, not talking about morbidity as its kinda filler talent for me, dk much.), Its a bonus to have but I see very little gain from it, low proc chance, doesnt stay long enough to affect anything in my eyes.
Well as I said it was for fun, I know only that if Im gonna play tank on dk, its gonna be a blood specced one.
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Except this is WotLk expansion and not one person brought up Cataclysm or Shadowlands except you ofcourse. Has it ever occurred to you that instead of all the later expansions magically being blood dk as some new tank spec, that blood dk has just been a tank spec since WotLK??
Also, sorry @BastardBottle if I was rude, just thought you were troll baiting. I also defer to Gnimo’s insight as resident DK professorEdited: February 7, 2021
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I am an actor who witnessed dk's debut. I think it was 2008. I remember a player who reached the 70 level limit in 24 hours.
For 80lvl I am not interested except icc raid. My talent is for tanking with low gear scores in Icc.
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Well you got your answer.
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Your build is nonsensical trash, every single thing starting from your "philosophy" up to your macros. It wont get you anywhere.
If you want to purely tank ICC, respec to Blood.
If you want just attention and being martyr underdog with Frost, at least build it properly.
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I've seen DW Frost tank doing ICC25 HC, though it was long time ago (2015). Certainly rocked BPC fight while tanking Keleseth. Nothing else noteworthy that I can recall in the middle of the night. Think it solo/MT'd Sindragosa as well without an effort. It can definitely work, but with your talents, I'd request you to change your talents, before joining any ICC that wants to progress beyond DBS..
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Keleseth SL may have been resistable in 2015, however, they are not (last checked a month ago) and they certainly should not be resistable so frost keleseth tank makes no sense whatsoever. For reference,
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/0...Lance%22%0D%0A
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With over 6.2 gear scores, they can all be tanked, even with dps talent. Don't grow the talent that big.
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