1. People still care about your dps more than how knowledgeable you are, thats why they are worried about carrying you or someone else, even if you **** up and die nobody would notice because your dps is lower than a tank dps and you will still get carried. Most instances you can do with few empty spots, thats why they complain, because they know they can kill Halion or Lich King with or without you

  2. Kovachut, The good thing is that even though this topic was way late into my progression, I have been farming EOF's since July. So definitely had been grinding EOF's daily nonstop since I hit 80. So yes I have tortured myself because I wanted to raise my standards for raiding and actually be competent.

    I figured because majority of the community is pug raiding, I thought to myself might as well join along the rodeo. So I put my analyzing skills to to everything in my rogue and picked what I needed to do in just a month. You would be right considering I am always top dps unless I am with another player who already finished their impeccable gear progression. Then I will fall off a bit, but even in small circumstances I was still able to stay behind them consistently. Otherwise if anyone were around the same GS as mine, I am either number one or below two people. No worries, once I get my gloves, then max my rep ring, I will definitely start the raid progression.

    I think I've been doing so well that I just need luck now. But yes Sedition even though a hardcore raiding guild is still my favorite guild to be in because these guys have their own methods of completing ICC 25hc. I've been watching every stream, visually analyze their photograph of raid placements for certain bosses, looked over a chronological chart of which player does what for certain scenarios, and witnessed every boss fight they've encounter and how they dealt with it. all of this comes from discord.

    I am dedicated to this because this is the first time I done classic hardcore raiding since Molten core at the age of 6(Yes I was that young when I did 40-man). Almost there, just a few more steps to complete then I am set.

  3. It's not possible to get any source of gear without ICC. Even rep farms reject me even though I have proven my dps is above average.
    I am definitely not spending 6000 gold for tier10 gear because there is no worth in it when I already have a list of the armor that will replace it anyways.

    Also the person who just mentioned I could do easily do 10k dps iCC is probably right since I have screenshots on every dungeon I performed in. but mostly in between 7000 to 9000(ST). I know my rotation, I know what I need to do to perform better. But It wont be enough until I have more armor pen, and I cant stack enough until tier10.

    I could mention that my guild often does raiding content however the only way to do that is by becoming a G1 or G2 raider which is out of my league. And all the content they do is ICC 25hc and LOD 25hc. To actively become a raider of my guild you need to convince the GM's that you can raid, something that I failed to do with unfortunately. Even though one particularly rogue who was 300 gs more than me, praised me for overperforming on him when he had way better gear than I, even he asked his buddy if they could invite me to ICC 10 man normal upcoming Sunday, no response.

    I think what I will do is just farm EoF's for another 4-5 months until I've surpassed the gap. By then, its just a stroke of luck, nobody wants to invite someone that isn't properly prepared.

    https://imgur.com/cnFf7a7
    https://imgur.com/a/t8ONvhh
    First two were taken after the final bosses of the dungeons I overperformed, 9.1 and 9.3 dps Single target.
    https://imgur.com/7FBcO7P
    https://imgur.com/bu2Ttc7
    Last two images were taken after two large mob fights that had 8-10 mobs.
    This isn't convincing because it isn't raid content, but its the closest I've gotten to having 10k dps.

    That's really all I can show, until I do raiding I cant show anyone what my raid dps looks like, its a nonexistent record.

    Bro, do you really screenshot 20 seconds Cleave Fights (must've been during Brewfest, because of Weapon in Chat) with Shaman in group for Bloodlust and all your cooldowns? And take that as a reference for "i could do 10k dps in ICC" ? I can see why people wont let you join raids, you dont seem to be very smart.
    That said, 9k is pretty low for that.

  4. Doesnt matter I have already been invited to icc 10 raids by my guildmates. Also I have already acquired a good amount of EoF's to get the gear I needed to do it so your argument is invalid.

    These were old images about a month ago which I've already climbed far above that. But if you came here to talk crap to me then you have no business validating your opinion against me. Just look at my character I linked it in the topic. This gear was good enough to do RS so I don't see a reason for you to say "You don't seem very smart."

    Also I learned the hard way is that you don't need to the best gear in the game to do icc 10 or RS 10. I could see that for 25. If you like I have ICC screenshots cleave where I climbed at least 18000 dps on 8-9 mob pulls. but I am gonna close this topic because its old school now.

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