A suggestion to the staff team for the future

[ididot124]

so if i was in a av and ppl did that meta u dont like i should just have left it ?

[Obnoxious]

so if i was in a av and ppl did that meta u dont like i should just have left it ?

Firstly, it isn't about not liking, it's about it not only being flat out against our rules, but that it's just abusing the system and doing the opposite of PvP. Like it has been said, people had turned it into co-op. But to answer, you should have not joined in the rule breaking bandwagon and reported anyone who was calling for it or harassing you for not taking part.

[ididot124]

just wanna inform u that people getting banned for wintrade but its not wintrading ?

[Umbrylex]

The lessons I have learned from this is that,
1. Don't communicate in any way as this can be misinterpreted and get you banned for coordinating a potential win-trade.
2. It's better to AFK in AV because as the aforementioned you reduce the risk of communication and you reduce the risk of giving a kill to the opposing faction.

this is what you have to do in order to reduce the risk of your account getting banned. Tread carefully

[Ringo117]

yea i just don't queue bgs at all anymore even though i joined here for pvp.

[Sauurfang]

How to fix AV:

-add 500 reinforcement ticket mechanism, at 0 tickets the team loses AV
-remove HK/honor gain when you are dead/spirit ressing at GY
-wipe all pvp ranks to rank 6 (knight/stone guard)

[LezChap1]

How to fix AV:

-add 500 reinforcement ticket mechanism, at 0 tickets the team loses AV
-remove HK/honor gain when you are dead/spirit ressing at GY
-wipe all pvp ranks to rank 6 (knight/stone guard)

I got to rank 11 before the "kill trading" people are talking about started. And I'm not a R14, even now. I don't see how wiping to rank 6 will be productive or constructive to the server or the gameplay in general.

Removing the ability to gain HKs while dead would only promote the AFK play...melees die quick and you're making it even more disadvantageous for them to do so.

The only idea you made that might prevent the endless HK farm is the Reinforcements one. What I see happening is people stop going for Balinda/Galv, stop taking towers, and race to see who gets 500hks first (and wins the BG via forcing the other teams reinforcements to 0).

[evrokrem]

I got to rank 11 before the "kill trading" people are talking about started. And I'm not a R14, even now. I don't see how wiping to rank 6 will be productive or constructive to the server or the gameplay in general.

It would be constructive to the server and gameplay because everyone being r14 makes current PVE gear and gear from the next two phases virtually useless.

Everyone having overpowered gear this early has completely ruined any sense of progression on the realm. We will have to wait for AQ40 for many classes to have any kind of real power spike. That's in MAY.

What is the point of raiding MC? What is the point of waiting for BWL when you get equally powerful gear today by sitting AFK in AV?

[Ringo117]

It would be constructive to the server and gameplay because everyone being r14 makes current PVE gear and gear from the next two phases virtually useless.

Everyone having overpowered gear this early has completely ruined any sense of progression on the realm. We will have to wait for AQ40 for many classes to have any kind of real power spike. That's in MAY.

What is the point of raiding MC? What is the point of waiting for BWL when you get equally powerful gear today by sitting AFK in AV?

ok but why punish people who farmed out their blue pvp gear? resetting hks and removing the gear would mean they are literally naked, 6+ slots completely empty. most players don't have a backup set of gear in their bank

[Ringo117]

they could just tune down the epic pvp gear instead of removing it, tuning it back up as we reach later phases

[juhachikun]

Not a single player - who isn't being disingenuous, at least - didn't know about the rules and thought trading kills like that was all well and dandy.
The only gross thing here is pretending to have been oblivious about it and acting like lacking the common sense a toddler would show.

You don't play on Onyxia, do you?

[Obnoxious]

You don't play on Onyxia, do you?

Are you saying it somehow takes not playing in Onyxia to know our rules, only people who don't play there have that capacity?
Because that's the "lolgic" jump I can see between your post and the one you're quoting.

[juhachikun]

Why would I take accountability for people thinking they can get away with an obvious rule? Why is it that WE must take accountability of those people's actions instead of THEM?


Maybe there's "philosophy" on the offender's end on determining whether they can get away with it or not. But if those people can't recognize there is risk of a ban involved, then that's not the staff's issue.

Maybe because the server has been out for 2 months and nothings been done except reset everyones reputation (that isn't realistically farmable for an average player, because nothing in AV has been done properly on Onyxia) The system is completely flawed anyone who played the game and isn't completely out of touch knows it.

You gave us a custom ranking system for Vanilla, then you gave us Vanilla Alterac Valley without the TBC/WotLK Reinforcements that's already been supported on other servers. Not to mention the merc bugs and 5000 other bugs/not working quests/events. And surprise surprise, anyone who is in AV is wintrading to efficiently farm HKs, ban the entire "PvP" community on Onyxia where there is 0 incentive to win any battleground as of now, 2+ months into the server.

[juhachikun]

Are you saying it somehow takes not playing in Onyxia to know our rules, only people who don't play there have that capacity?
Because that's the "lolgic" jump I can see between your post and the one you're quoting.

I mean I already knew the answer but yeah thanks for confirming. Would be amazing with some kind of staff or moderator who isn't completely out of touch that plays on the server this subforum is for.

[Obnoxious]

Oh just another, slightly more wordy, version of "iT's AlL yOuR fAuLt We ArE wInTrAdInG uArMaIn"?
Never gets old it seems.