1. Is this based on a fact, or a wild assumption?
    Did you ever raise your voice when FAP was dirt cheap on Blackrock, while Icecrown players had to pay 60g+ a piece. Ofc you didn't, because the dirt cheap price benefited your ***, that's how it always goes. Stay silent when it's extremely good for you, but when the scales are tipping on the other side, it's time to go for war.

    Let's call the high price a petty payback for years of low cost FAP abuse. The price should go down, but it shouldn't be a trivial cost where you don't have to think if it's worth to use it whenever it's off of a CD.
    It shouldn't go down. They still have other consumables that are insanely cheap. They can self buff with drums and scrolls every single time they die, or even when they're dispelled, without even thinking about it. Icecrown/Lordaeron players can't do that.

    The fact that so many players are complaining, tells you how over reliant people have been on these. It's become part of their gameplay, and now it's gone.

  2. It shouldn't go down. They still have other consumables that are insanely cheap. They can self buff with drums and scrolls every single time they die, or even when they're dispelled, without even thinking about it. Icecrown/Lordaeron players can't do that.

    The fact that so many players are complaining, tells you how over reliant people have been on these. It's become part of their gameplay, and now it's gone.
    You still can on Icecrown. If you're a donor or sell gems for gold, it's literally not a problem at all.

  3. You still can on Icecrown. If you're a donor or sell gems for gold, it's literally not a problem at all.
    I personally sold my Icecrown characters to swap over to Blackrock years ago to have more ease of access to food in BGs, drums, potions, ammo etc. These were all available on Icecrown but it required constantly selling gems from honour, planning for the gold squish or spending coins for gold. Now I still pay for the consumables but I use currency exclusively gained from the only format I enjoy or play in WOTLK.
    So.. is it easy or not?

    Icecrown isn't locked from anybody. You can come (back) and farm in Icecrown for those easy FAP's. You seem to think Icecrown is somehow an easy mode, which it isn't according to your own words.

    Blackrock: Farm for gear and PvP consumables through PvP.
    Icecrown: Farm for level, gear, professions, materials, gold etc. through PvP AND PvE while facing competition from both sides.

    As Baartleby2 said, people became over reliant on FAP, since they got almost unlimited use out of them. Now that it's gone, people talk like they can't do PvP anymore, as if their entire PvP career is in shambles over one potion needing some work put into it now.


  4. So.. is it easy or not?

    Icecrown isn't locked from anybody. You can come (back) and farm in Icecrown for those easy FAP's. You seem to think Icecrown is somehow an easy mode, which it isn't according to your own words.

    Blackrock: Farm for gear and PvP consumables through PvP.
    Icecrown: Farm for level, gear, professions, materials, gold etc. through PvP AND PvE while facing competition from both sides.

    As Baartleby2 said, people became over reliant on FAP, since they got almost unlimited use out of them. Now that it's gone, people talk like they can't do PvP anymore, as if their entire PvP career is in shambles over one potion needing some work put into it now.
    Fair point. Depends if you consider micromanaging currency or just playing the game. Neither is hard, though. Just comes down to effort you want to spend on BG essentials. -Essentials-. You are however advocating for shutting down the BG community of Blackrock by imposing disparity one step at a time. We're still forced to play mercenary mode because Icecrown guilds only play one faction.
    Sounds like an AA-meeting, but it's legitimately one of the few ways of fighting co-ordinated CC from a mob of people. Which is essentially what most BGs as Blackrock vs Icecrown boils down to. 1v1s aren't really relevant in BGs either way. It doesn't cancel out any classes that are already under-performing either.

  5. When FAP was cheap, you guys from the BlackRock realm were silent. You could buy plenty and abuse it without a word. But the moment the price goes up, you rush to the forums to complain. This just proves how overpowered that potion was. If it had been free, you wouldn't have said a thing.

  6. When FAP was cheap, you guys from the BlackRock realm were silent. You could buy plenty and abuse it without a word. But the moment the price goes up, you rush to the forums to complain. This just proves how overpowered that potion was. If it had been free, you wouldn't have said a thing.
    from 200 honor to 5000 honor 2400% increase ... 70g per fap? 2400% = 1750 sounds fair to me

  7. You still can on Icecrown. If you're a donor or sell gems for gold, it's literally not a problem at all.
    Literally nobody on Icecrown does that, though. I've played against people who self buff as soon as I spell steal, wasting like half a stack of drums, and they're always from Blackrock.

    Blackrock had faps for like 1/10 of the price of Icecrown for years, it's about time the tables were turned.

    Imagine getting 2k honor from a BG win, and then faps costing 100 each (which they used to, before they doubled it). Literally 20 faps for every bg win.
    Edited: September 5, 2024

  8. What a "balance" my *** now everyone poppin free actions in icecrown , but u barely can afford some in blackrock and your all pots got removed, now i have fight icecrown rogues who free action 24/7 really fair game, glad u made such balance for people to quit playing wow cuz theres no joy to fight free action poppers from icc when u cant get any in blackrock

  9. Just comes down to effort you want to spend on BG essentials. -Essentials-. You are however advocating for shutting down the BG community of Blackrock by imposing disparity one step at a time. We're still forced to play mercenary mode because Icecrown guilds only play one faction.
    Sounds like an AA-meeting, but it's legitimately one of the few ways of fighting co-ordinated CC from a mob of people.
    I'm advocating for:
    a) Reduced spam of FAP preferably on both realms. Cost adjustment was long overdue on Blackrock.
    b) Blackrock players to be barred from low-end BG's against Icecrown and Lordaeron players.
    Blackrock being forced to use mercenary mode is necessary. Blackrock adds players to PvP pool that's already over saturated by Alliance players. Even with forced merc mode Blackrock faction balance is almost 2:1 for Alliance (65-35). It would only get worse if merc mode wasn't forced.

    from 200 honor to 5000 honor 2400% increase ... 70g per fap? 2400% = 1750 sounds fair to me
    If you don't factor in anything else that's actually important, and only focus solely on price, that might make sense. With this calculation in mind, can I trade honor for gold in Icecrown with 1:1 ratio? I mean it sounds balanced to me if we calculate stuff like that.

    What a "balance" my *** now everyone poppin free actions in icecrown , but u barely can afford some in blackrock and your all pots got removed, now i have fight icecrown rogues who free action 24/7 really fair game, glad u made such balance for people to quit playing wow cuz theres no joy to fight free action poppers from icc when u cant get any in blackrock
    Guys, can I once again tell people to play on Icecrown, please? Pretty please. Gate's open, come on in.

  10. i played lordaeron i got my hc polearm ninja'ed by holy paladin, the fact that already getting items u want to drop takes long time, made me quit grinding that ... u icc pigs cry about how its hard to get gear hard to get gems, half of u donated it lmao, real man earn it on lordaeron and u always had choice to choose between the servers so why u make fuss omg bis geared relentless only players in blackrock killed my smourne warrior, maybe problem is in your game play ? **** u and **** your grinding ****, icecrowns were always clowns with big ego, u are all kenzz butt cheeks kissers if not mercenary mode and kenzz u were crying in forums omg how its hard to win versus horde. Shame on game masters playing icecrown, deleting half of items from blackrock players who spend their time getting all those pots flasks and **** when u can just pop your game master account and delete anything u want by writing in a ticket "its to make better balance cuz accesibility of items were too easy" like u ever fkin played hours to get 1000 free action pots in your guild bank. Just saying truth and this post will be deleted cuz truth is painful. Server was dying u made 60% people quit after your **** ideas and u keep doing that. Hope u kill it this time. Fk iceclowns.


  11. i played lordaeron i got my hc polearm ninja'ed by holy paladin, the fact that already getting items u want to drop takes long time, made me quit grinding that ... u icc pigs cry about how its hard to get gear hard to get gems, half of u donated it lmao, real man earn it on lordaeron and u always had choice to choose between the servers so why u make fuss omg bis geared relentless only players in blackrock killed my smourne warrior, maybe problem is in your game play ? **** u and **** your grinding ****, icecrowns were always clowns with big ego, u are all kenzz butt cheeks kissers if not mercenary mode and kenzz u were crying in forums omg how its hard to win versus horde. Shame on game masters playing icecrown, deleting half of items from blackrock players who spend their time getting all those pots flasks and **** when u can just pop your game master account and delete anything u want by writing in a ticket "its to make better balance cuz accesibility of items were too easy" like u ever fkin played hours to get 1000 free action pots in your guild bank. Just saying truth and this post will be deleted cuz truth is painful. Server was dying u made 60% people quit after your **** ideas and u keep doing that. Hope u kill it this time. Fk iceclowns.
    Wow, talk about a meltdown! My man, it sounds like you got outplayed by a Holy Paladin and decided to write an entire novel about it. Crying over your ninja’d polearm like it’s the end of the world, when in reality, it’s just another Tuesday on Lordaeron. You know what’s really hard? Reading through your wall of text without getting a headache from all the whining.

    You quit grinding? Good, that server needs a break from all the salt you’re spilling. Calling out Icecrown players for being ‘clowns’ while you rage-quit over a single item is the peak of irony. And let’s talk about ‘real men’ for a second. A real man wouldn’t be here throwing a tantrum because they got outplayed. A real man wouldn’t be shaking his fist at the game masters because he can’t get over the fact that he got his SM slapped by someone who actually knows how to play.

    And what’s this about ‘kenzz butt cheek kissers’? Sounds like you’ve been thinking a lot about other people’s rear ends—maybe it’s time to step away from the keyboard and get some fresh air. You’re out here throwing shade at people for donating, but at least they’ve got something to show for it. Meanwhile, you’re still crying over that one item like it’s your ex who dumped you in middle school.

    Face it, dude, your problem isn’t the server, the game masters, or other players, it’s your gameplay. And as for your ‘truth’? It’s about as painful as a wet noodle. This rant will probably stick around longer than you ever did on Lordaeron. So next time you feel like venting, maybe try some therapy instead. We’re all out here trying to enjoy the game, not get dragged into your pity party. Iceclowns out.

  12. It shouldn't go down. They still have other consumables that are insanely cheap. They can self buff with drums and scrolls every single time they die, or even when they're dispelled, without even thinking about it. Icecrown/Lordaeron players can't do that.

    The fact that so many players are complaining, tells you how over reliant people have been on these. It's become part of their gameplay, and now it's gone.


    Drum and Scroll is buff for whole raid.

    not self buff.

    I use Drum and Scroll and Fish for other player who missing buff.

    Do you have complain about that.

  13. I'm advocating for:
    a) Reduced spam of FAP preferably on both realms. Cost adjustment was long overdue on Blackrock.
    b) Blackrock players to be barred from low-end BG's against Icecrown and Lordaeron players.
    Blackrock being forced to use mercenary mode is necessary. Blackrock adds players to PvP pool that's already over saturated by Alliance players. Even with forced merc mode Blackrock faction balance is almost 2:1 for Alliance (65-35). It would only get worse if merc mode wasn't forced.
    and who exactly u are? xD are you living on this forum or what? i can tell you, if its so hard to play on icecrown, i have a solution- go play blackrock. xD

    srsly is cool when u don't have to spent 3 days farming mats to get an items, you could ofc donate that 10 euro and buy everything, but its your choice, we dont have a choice on blackrock. Hope i made it clear for you, with your aggression and confidence in this place i assume you are missing the point. We already have no choice and made bg much more enjoyable for last year when horde start winning vs alliance on av. U are not seeing that on SotA horde cant put fish on ship till they dont know the firepit trick, or on IoC when go thru hangar you are losing your pet. You sticked to ally icecrown formation and you want to whoop noobz, how you could know that. You will tell is nuthing, but those are solution the admins made since first days to make one faction stronger. Unbalance was crazy hard. But u can see this only on pvp. Most probably, for years bis icecriown players had merc mode off, so allinace was waitng half an hour for av with k-world to farm horde next 2hours. Then blackrock players like me with PTSD came to the game. We have life, we can pay for things, we dont need to farm this all **** again like18 years ago, we dont need to proove you any of this ****, we have money, server is great, we can pay for service- actualy better warmane than blizzard. Then we choose ally, but we play only horde, by default, we cant change it. Losing one time by another, to teach the "constantly losing team" to win. We are losing one 60av and winning 2. Every game is closer to making people to listen the orders. Now horde is wining most of av, BIS players from icecrown coming to horde(biggest homogoblin im talking about you) and want to farm like they did before. But for them is not working. So they taking out oportunity for most players to use one of the mechanics, that blizzard implemented to the game for some reason. From my bags, evaporated, 3 from 5 full stacks of 2k honor each emblems 750x2000, its accident? beach, plz. They are just scared of this warlock. Im greatfull that build that power, and scared because its smell communism. And a pro tip, this potions not making people immune fear or poly. Just change class bro.

    Sry, it was half offtopic but this spamer makes me vomit

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