Hi, I've been trying very hard to improve in my holy priest atm. So far, I found that the Renew Spam > Mending > COH playstyle seems to be the most effective in Raids. However, I'm still not satisfied with my current healing capacity.
I was recently trying out Glyph of Renew and wanted some insight into this glyph.. if its bad as many guides have said... or if its actually good?
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Holy Spec: Glyph of Renew
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Field Medic Moderator
If you're gauging yourself by HPS, don't. You'll do yourself a favor.
What Glyph of Renew does is have Renew do its healing a little faster. It doesn't increase healing done per Renew cast. If anything, it's a pvp glyph.
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Well its a good glyph for pvp, that I definitely agree. But the reason, I wish to utilise this glyph is simply because, I find myself never using the full 15 renews due to Mending/COH coming of CD and the occassional need for Flash Heals in 25 man Raids.. And as long as I keep up like 10+ Renews on players, wouldn't the overall healing be much higher?
Like the only reason a non-glyphed player would beat me regarding renew is literally only if he can constantly blanket 15 people.. but that usually means he wouldn't be using Mending/COH on CD.. which would decrease he's heals by a lot.
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I would say that depends on how much overlap you're having if you ever end up refreshing a Renew on a target that already has one. Which shouldn't be a concern in a 25-man raid. Then in a 10-man raid, you're going to be casting more Flash rather than Renew due to the nature of a 10-man raid size.
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Well if theres a lot overlay, its better to have it glyphed. Oh and yea, in 10 mans, i usually pre-hot Renews and use Mending + COH on CD. It usually is enough to cover the damage. Unless I'm tank healing..
However, I came across an interesting perspective on Renew.
60 seconds Glyphed:
0-12s - 1st Renew
12-24s - 2nd Renew
24-36s - 3rd Renew
36-48s - 4th Renew
48-60s - 5th Renew
60 Seconds Unglyphed:
0-15s - 1st Renew
15-30s - 2nd Renew
30-45s - 3rd Renew
45-60s - 4th Renew
If we assume the number of targets I'm going to Renew is the same. That is 10 players as Mending has a 10 second CD. And always keep these 10 players refreshed.. Wouldn't it be better for Total Healing as well Heals Per Second when Glyphed?
Current Spec: https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#bVcbuZfEzcbMqihhxuVo:fNdzcVEdited: June 22, 2021
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That's the thing though. There won't be.
If you're healing a 10-man raid exclusively with Renew/PoM/CoH, you're not really being an effective healer. If you're talking about a 25-man raid group, why would you be concerned about trying to always heal the same 10 people? You're denying healing that could be useful to other people in the group. The only way this would have an impact on anything is if you're keeping a renew active on the tanks. A Renew on the tanks isn't likely to do much for them.
Being completely honest, I despise the Renew spam spec and I wish people wouldn't use it.
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Hey Mercy, I created a new spec keeping what you said in mind.
https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#bVcbuZfxtcbMqih0euVo:Nd0zcV I find this to be the best of both worlds. Renew when no one is taking damage, and hard healing when they do.
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The basic question doesn't get old, because I also asked myself about the benefits of that glyph. The only notable chance I had to use it, was Ulduar 10 on heroic fights, because otherwise it is literally impossible to get a job as holy priest. The result of that experiment is the Firefighter-award, by doing just what was frowned upon here: Renew/PoM/CoH. In my opinion this playstyle is highly effective, especially in connection with Glyph of Renew. On bigger raids it may be impossible to keep enough player covered though, because boosted Renew simply runs out too fast. Your HPS is nice though and everything is instant, which is a huge plus in my book.
https://imgur.com/6nTX5yJ
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For me renew is a bit like a filler to help you to heal while people take the same periodical damage (in that case renew + POM and some COH is enought) COH as main spell not renew. Or to prevent a big aoe damage (then renew +POH at the right timing then COH). Otherwise this spell is useless. It's heal enought without talent. By useless I mean 80% of time it's just overhealing.
The real matter for hpriest on wotlk are not their healing but hpala. They snipe your healing with theirs insta and slower cast. Futhermore they spam healing like *****. I guess this is why you have this playstyle.
I don't like the spe you "create". It's not it's not working, it's just it's don't shine in any aspect because you try to do everything in one. And spamming renew is the best way to get oom without the right spe.
If you want to have this kind of insta healing playstyle, there is a spe https://www.warcrafttavern.com/wotlk...tor/priest#?t=
pro: you are an hybrid between disco and holy, that mean hpala can't snipe you. Shine on Aoe healing and by spamming shield.
con: you can't use it with a disco in raid, not really good againts really heavy damage (but to the the spamming of hpala it's ok)
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