1. If you think that alliance sucks, then go play on IceCrown realm and shut the fck up, god damn these cry babies bunch of pussies playing WoW.
    I've made my peace about people needing to harrass other people to feel good about themselves, who only know to be strong when confronted with weaker individuals. But thank you for illustrating my point about denial when confronted with a position of privilege. That is actually backed up by numbers.

    BTW, just got jumped by 5 hordes minding my own business while traversing the peninsula, keep up the good work people, you sure showed me.

  2. What if you could make it so that alliance has x% percentage improved rates linked to the percentage of imbalance,

    So if there is 60% horde and 40% alliance, increase rates for alliance by 50% to even it out.

  3. And so with your assumption that world pvp is perfectly fine being unfair, one side is doomed to be constantly at a disadvantage and unable to do its quests? Unable to gather materials for crafting? Even for the ones that try to avoid world PVP? There are other thing to do in this world than to harrass other players you know? For the 30 seconds of perverted pleasure that killing someone with 20 more levels, or 10 times the people provides?

    So one side just exists to be cannon fodder for the other?

    If that's the case, then everyone will move to the horde, world PVP will cease to exist at all, problem solved.
    That's your solution?
    All of this is what blizzard intended when they created pvp realms, and warmane chose to make this a pvp realm. The previous realm was pve so, in changing the new realm to pvp, I assume they would rather have it work the way it works now.

  4. What goal do you think Blizzard pursued when they "made it that way"?

    It's all fine and dandy, but it was a commercial choice. Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle...f_player_types and see which player category "unfair world pvp" caters to.

    It's all about not losing a chunk of a certain player base. The one that actually enjoys destroying communities. So I find the approach of "letting the community fix it" hypocritical at best.

  5. queue skip for alliance would be better than changing ingame stuff

  6. Hordes will suffer from this in return. Less pvp, less honor to be farmed, less ppl queuing bgs on alliance side = even HIGHER que times for horde. So before you go say alliance this alliance that, remember we are trying to make this fair, for you too horde, and have a healthy faction BALANCE. Horde won’t enjoy the game as much as they could either. This is a pvp server for pvpers any PvE take should be instantly thrown out the window. You don’t see pvpers playing on pve realms complaining about no pvp. No… that would be stupid. Never fails to have pve andies complaining on pvp servers tho. Been listening to em whine for 20+ yrs as if they never had a choice as to which server they play on. So pve’rs should just go play somewhere else problem fixed, and to the horde, realize that you too will too be ****ed soon. We’ve all played on servers where it’s 99% horde and it’s extremely boring and makes the gaming experience dull in so many areas.

  7. I have to point out how hypocritical it is to say alliance just "whines". On the quest in the hellfire peninsula where we have a symmetrical quest to destroy siege engine, horde can just waltz in and do their stuff without interruption. Any ally who think the other side will extend the courtesy will just be instantly wiped.

    This is all about exploiting a position of privilege. Not unlike the real world where people having privileges will just avoid questioning their own behavior, and just point how the other side, usually a minority, is not trying hard enough. Saying anything else is just bad faith at this point. Expecting the "community" to fix this up won't work. People won't abandon any privilege on their own.
    Yes. Playing together has long since been established as a privilege on a game designed around groups; especially when war is in the name of the game.

    What's crazy though, it's that this is not the real world. It's a virtual simulation where you effectively have "gods" that have all the data they need to tip the scales. And they just sit back and watch.

    Free stuff is not the answer, sides are unablanced? Whatever. You could just apply a debuff to everyone that scales damage to the population imbalance in a given zone to cancel out the numbers (and scale honour gain down for the favoured side in order to keep things fair). There are countless answers to this issue. The obvious one being of course to bring back the PVP flag toggling.

    But the gods just sit back and watch the drama and the unfairness. This inaction is beyond me.
    They aren't gods and they aren't here to cater to any group of players. You picked a game mode, now you're upset it's not what you wanted and have the audacity to think it's fair if you're catered to.

    I've made my peace about people needing to harrass other people to feel good about themselves, who only know to be strong when confronted with weaker individuals. But thank you for illustrating my point about denial when confronted with a position of privilege. That is actually backed up by numbers.
    I see you've retreated to insults and burying your head in the sand of generalized assumptions. Definitely a fool-proof tactic for debates.
    Edited: November 17, 2024

  8. I've made my peace about people needing to harrass other people to feel good about themselves, who only know to be strong when confronted with weaker individuals. But thank you for illustrating my point about denial when confronted with a position of privilege. That is actually backed up by numbers.

    BTW, just got jumped by 5 hordes minding my own business while traversing the peninsula, keep up the good work people, you sure showed me.
    Oh no, five Hordies jumped you? Stop the presses! Someone call Blizzard and let them know PvP happened on a PvP server! How dare they not roll out the red carpet for your peaceful stroll through enemy territory.

    "Made my peace"? Bro, you’re crying harder than the guy who forgot to loot the raid boss. And this “privilege backed by numbers” nonsense, what are you even on about? The only numbers that matter here are five Horde and one crying Alliance.

    Here’s a tip: next time, try rolling a character in the Sims if you want to “mind your own business” without consequences. Meanwhile, we’ll keep showing you the respawn timer.

  9. alliance is just fkd rerolling horde now. and you should too.

  10. If you think that alliance sucks, then go play on IceCrown realm and shut the fck up, god damn these cry babies bunch of pussies playing WoW.

    Another Stupid *****...

    Anyway in a Week or two u wont hafe any PvP anymore because nobody will Play Alliance, and then? thats what u PVP guys want?

  11. Another Stupid *****...

    Anyway in a Week or two u wont hafe any PvP anymore because nobody will Play Alliance, and then? thats what u PVP guys want?
    So its our fault if they suck in TBC and cant play without human racial from wotlk?

  12. Oh no, five Hordies jumped you? Stop the presses! Someone call Blizzard and let them know PvP happened on a PvP server! How dare they not roll out the red carpet for your peaceful stroll through enemy territory.

    "Made my peace"? Bro, you’re crying harder than the guy who forgot to loot the raid boss. And this “privilege backed by numbers” nonsense, what are you even on about? The only numbers that matter here are five Horde and one crying Alliance.

    Here’s a tip: next time, try rolling a character in the Sims if you want to “mind your own business” without consequences. Meanwhile, we’ll keep showing you the respawn timer.
    Dude, you're proving my point again. For someone pretending to not have a privilege, you enjoy the situation waaaay too much. I would like to see how you would keep your cool if the situation was reversed. Maybe you'd just leave finding another server were the numbers are to your advantage. Me, I'm staying, like I said, I've made my peace with the situation. I'm not asking for anything, just saying that keeping things the way they are is just catering to a portion of players who are bent on enjoying an unfair advantage, and would leave otherwise, and is a commercial decision.
    Currently, yes Onyxia is 37% alliance, 63% horde, so there are the numbers. Facts don't care about your feelings.

  13. Another Stupid *****...

    Anyway in a Week or two u wont hafe any PvP anymore because nobody will Play Alliance, and then? thats what u PVP guys want?
    I mean, you should just feel sorry for them by looking at their recent posts and nothing else.

    OT, they will implement cross-realm with Blackrock so I am sure there will be a ton of PVP on the server. Despite this, and the fact that I am usually an aficionado for ranting over Warmane's decisions, the launch was an amazing experience all around. I thus think we should be grateful for that in the first place.

    To my experience while playing alliance, it is true that sometimes you get ganked hard and some quests are harder to complete. If a zone is packed with hostile horde players, I can just move to another one and generally be fine. I am a casual player though, so I get that if a guild wanted to rush for realm firsts well, that's just probably less likely to happen compare to a horde guild).

    On a final note, I believe the faction balance issue is not a problem created by Warmane, but players mentality (fomo and min-maxing the fun out of everything). 20 years ago it was less than a problem, when Blizzard failed to balance the game, but it is now. I am sure nothing will change, so either we play
    alliance and try to endure the situation/find enjoyment in try to overcome the odds, or 2) we reroll horde if we thinkg we might have more fun playing on the more numerous faction.

  14. 60% horde 40% alliance is not that bad tbh

  15. yes it is. the gap is getting bigger and bigger stop trying too play it down. either something needs too be done now. or people just gonna deal with a 70/30

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