Guild: Verkhovna Rada
Realm: Icecrown
Faction: Horde
Loot: DKP
Discord: https://discord.gg/WYnjsZzeYb
Our value:
Bring the person not the class.
Purpose:
Unite and develop Icecrown Horde Ukranian community to close PVE content in the highest difficulty, organize alt runs, do achievements/arenas/battlegrounds, spending time together playing WOTLK, doing PVE and PVP events.
We welcome casual and professional players to join our community. We do not welcome ru/by/russian aggression supporters.
Raid time: 20.00 Kyiv time
Progress:
ICC10 HC 12/12
ICC25 HC 12/12 x2
RS25HC 4/4
TOGC25 5/5 50/50
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[Icecrown][Horde] Verkhovna Rada UA Guild
Edited: 1 Week Ago
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The guild was created because Frozen Heart was toxic. The Verkhovna Rada was good from the beginning of the guild until its peak progress of online players. The Game Master went bad. There is a sensitive video on Discord about why the guild was created by the founder. Now the Verkhovna Rada is toxic for a number of reasons, namely - constant swearing from RL, voice flooding in channels where players created their raid, distracting players during combat, swearing. People are reported about the prohibition of swearing in the gi chat and GMs allow it even for no reason; a dispute over a character class is called a flood, text communication in the General channel for communication is called a flood. You can be kicked from the guild if you send a three-letter message to the GM when he prevents you from gathering a raid in the guild chat before gathering the main raid (there is no rule prohibiting gathering a raid during gathering the main one). When you correct the GM in his actions, he threatens you with conflict. In my opinion, Verkhovna Rada is a guild that was created to dress up their alts, namely the alts of the Game Master and his cronies, you will get what they don't need, they significantly reduced the DKP for completing the raid when they have already enjoyed it - this is a dictatorial guild in which they treat you with a biased attitude and will indicate which person to take into the raid and who not to take. Verkhovna Rada is not a community where everyone will find their place, this is constant self-praise, shouting, swearing and flooding from the founder and those who have already "turned around". There is such a perception that RL comes to Raid Time drunk, shame on him. GM will find a reason not to give you an item if he didn't like you (you contradicted him or corrected him in an argument), he will give it to his slob. During Raid Time your mood will deteriorate, you may have a headache the next day, more sensitive people are at risk of depression if you are not the same... Closing bane 25 is rare only 11 out of 12 and sometimes 10 out of 12, RS 25hm is also rare to close and there is such an impression - people kill bosses just so that "it" does not scream or stops screaming. Sponsoring the guild bank will remain without gratitude and kind words and there is hope for players you help who will please you.
P.S. I left the guild when I began to feel a deterioration in my mental state. The feeling was like turning into a "zombie". There is no point in staying because you feel like you are in a vacuum when you ignore the main raids. I tried to go with fellow guild members who collect individual raids as a result of which the GM encourages conflict by "blocking the air". I suggested treating everyone with loyalty, and the response was a silent disregard for the proposition.
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Hello and thank you for your comment.
So, just to start of, I'm one of the GMs in that guild, and it's very interesting to hear about so many "situations".
Let's discuss those.
1. "Constant swearing from RL" - interesting comment, swear words are used as a way to passionately explain something. I can agree that sometimes it's too much and that is one and only valid criticism
2. "voice flooding in channels where players created their raid, distracting players during combat" - we explicitly doesn't mute the whole channel so that all people in the raid could participate in the conversation, maybe sometimes it's too much, but 99% it's an alright atmosphere
3. "People are reported about the prohibition of swearing" - we can see here an example of either ChatGPT or Google Translator to explain something that is called a request to a guild member to stop swearing. It is not prohibited.
4. "a dispute over a character class is called a flood" - interesting take, the actual situation that happened wasn't a "dispute" it was a heated discussion which I asked to stop so it could be continued in private messages
5. "You can be kicked from the guild if you send a three-letter message to the GM" - ha, that's one of the best lines here, and the comment then goes "when he prevents you from gathering a raid in the guild chat before gathering the main raid". This event happened when we were gathering ppl for the main run, one person, that came from work decided to form a group to go into different raid, and we asked to wait a little bit once we will finish our group, just because it caused an additional flood in the guild, the person responded with "f*ck you" - we don't tolerate that behavior, so that person was gkicked - simple as that.
6. "When you correct the GM in his actions, he threatens you with conflict" - lmao, can't even comment on this. Basically, every GM and Raid Leader is open to criticism, but the person who wrote this comment made exactly zero suggestions and criticism.
7. "There is such a perception that RL comes to Raid Time drunk" - interesting to hear, especially when I'm not drinking in real life.
To be honest, there's too much to comment about. Just to finalize this, the person who wrote this comment decided to leave during the killing of the LoD because he got bored, and left the guild after I said that he was wrong for not listening to RL. That's all you need to know :)
Regarding our progress, currently the 3rd week in a row we're closing ICC25hc 12/12 without an issue, yes sometimes we might have a problem because some people are busy and can't attend RT, it happens. RS25hc still not killable for us for the same reason, we're unable to form a static, but we aren't aiming for a static since the main goal is to form a community not a closed group of ppl.
P.S. It will always be a problem for some people who aren't participating in guild life, and we have a serious of events and different guild raids where everyone can participate, if you haven't found your place here - it's ok, there're plenty of places. Thank you for that masterpiece of criticism, I'll try to take every work into account, and I'm saying it without sarcasm.
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You chose the comments that you are comfortable responding to. You behave the same way in the guild. If something doesn't suit you, you start screaming. I just don't want to stay and listen to your childish screaming. It's just enough. You don't even have the strength to apologize to everyone for your mistakes and go another way. When you turn to the listener in Discord, you can hear him humiliatingly answering, they are scared... You need a doctor or take a break from the game and do adult things.
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a set of only dressed players? or from any level?
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Sure, I'll take your advise :)
Too bad there's no way to represent my felling in smiles here, just to reflect a full spectr of emotions that I'm felling from your actions and your response.
Again, as always, thank you for your response and critique, I'll take all of this into account.
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To your health. I hope you weren't released from the clinic for long.
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