You need to state rules clearly before boss is pulled. Preferably during recruitment progress and well ahead of time before the first boss pull.
"BoE ress" would mean only trash BoE would be reserved, such as Wodin's Lucky Necklace and Leggings of Dubious Charms. Boss BoE's needs to be mentioned separately.
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The Lightbringer
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Member
this game has gotten so petty over the BoE's and i still dont understand it. we got people in outlands who have a 80ally and a 80horde who sit there and grief anyone who tries to lvl up in the area. but those ppl dont get banned noooooo its dumb situations like this. i really hope this gets fixed for you man because it was an unjustified act of our GM's and they know it.
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The Lightbringer
BoE = Gold = Coins
BoE = Gold = More Gold
It's PvP server. PvP is to be expected when you set your foot in there. You can always call for help, find another place to level, or another game to play. There are violent and peaceful ways to counter the situation. Or you could be a bit insane, and keep throwing your OHK character at their feet and expecting different outcome. See who gives up first.
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Forum Veteran
everyone needs on battered hilt but that's okay right? all classes can use it, I won one despite having 264 weapons already but no one complained.
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Member
I have never ever seen anyone leading a raid and specify that boss BOE are res, they always just say BOE res, that's all. So if I join a raid where the lead just says "SFS+BoE" res for example, and let's say chocker drops on BQL, if he does not roll it I can report him and get him banned?
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Overwatcher
If you join a Raid like that, you should ask for the leader to clarify if it's about "trash" BoEs or if that includes boss loot, since you are aware there's a distinction. If he clarifies in one way and does the other, sure, you can report and he might get banned with evidence proving it. If he refuses to clarify, you should leave the group and warn the rest of the raid group about it.
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Member
Ban a player for a BoE item in a dungeon that costs less than a coin. Correct!
Ban the player who didn't give you your won loot, but the loot ended up going to a friend, not even the second player, and the last player on the list. Incorrect!
Not getting loot that should be yours according to the bis list. - Double standards.
The whole essence of justice.
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Overwatcher
Can't make a proper report with the required minimum evidence!
Thinks whatever is enough evidence for himself must be accepted!
Doesn't own up to making a report lacking evidence and whines in the Forum instead!
The whole essence of entitlement.
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Member
thank you, will do it
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Member
Blizzard set the rules of this game and coded it accordingly. It’s that simple. This is a game, just like any other. Just as it would be ridiculous for a referee in a football match to show a red card and send a player off for touching the ball with their foot, this rule is equally absurd. A complex loot system is coded, and just because a few noobs are crying, the GMs in this game are giving players a “red card.”
If you want to change the rules of the game, you need to change the code. It’s that simple, and being a Game Master cannot be done by memorization alone.
For example, they designed World Drop so that everyone can press Need. If you want to change this, you would have to change it in the code. If something can be done in-game, it is part of the game’s rules. It’s that simple. This game was developed by Blizzard, and you are acting as moderators and GMs — that’s all. I recommend you learn a bit about what the game is and what its rules are. If you are not involved in the matter, you shouldn’t make comments and make yourself look ridiculous.
First of all, I think you should learn what ninja loot actually is. Ninja loot happens in two ways. First, in FFA loot (Free For All), a player takes everything and leaves (this happened in the Vanilla era on Onyxia 40-man). Second, in Master Loot, a player gives an item to themselves or another player. Anything outside of these cases is part of the game’s own rules. The reason you sometimes cannot press Need on certain items is because the game is coded that way.
This system is made for multiclass characters and spec changes. If they had made a rule that a Paladin entering as DPS can only roll Need for DPS, that Need roll wouldn’t even appear. Did the developers of this game not know how to implement this? Of course they did. There is no ninja loot here — players are just rolling to try their luck, that’s all. This is also how the game’s code works. In short, this is the rule of the game.
They coded the game this way, and our GMs are wasting unnecessary time on it. You could simply say, “This is the rule of the game, my friend.” If someone passes on a Batterial Hit drop in Halls of Reflection, you won’t find anyone intervening; for this reason, GMs need to stop this normal dungeon ninja nonsense. It’s a misuse of their time and an action that goes against the rules of the game.
Another day, someone got spoiled and said, “Are you going to make a rule that we can’t kill the Lich King?” Blizzard implemented that, but they did it with code. In ICC, there was no buff, and we couldn’t kill him until the 15% buff arrived. Rules are implemented in a game through coding…Edited: November 17, 2025
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Overwatcher
You're playing in our servers, you follow our rules.
If you can't abide by our rules, play elsewhere.
