Because the previous dates were acceptable, and there is no point in arguing when everything is basically fine
Just conduct a survey among accounts with characters at level 70
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Member
Ofc I do care!
For me it will be fine for whatever date Warmane staff decides... But for most others, I dont think so.
If Warmane staff just waited a day or so, instead to changing dates few hours after annoucement.
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How should we understand this, if the date before was fine for those who are now complaining, why should they write anything about it beforehand? Are we expected to say “yes, great date”? Just so you don't let yourselves be influenced by 20-30 people?
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Mistress of Regulation
To all of you still complaining:
The current updated dates will STAY. You might have free time, some others doesn't. Staff doesn't either. You're probably expecting that we will change it back to go and have a laugh on the internet. Give up.
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S2 Merc is available now. Mostly on par with T5 epics.
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Member
Why dont you just make a Poll and let the voting decide?
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Mistress of Regulation
Because we already decided it. It will be better not only for many players, but also the Staff to have some sparing time during holidays. At this point, the poll would be rigged and manipulated by trolls.
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Moderator
It's a very small minority being loud here in this thread about the dates. Everywhere else you look at, you don't see anyone talking about it.
Don't be misled by the posts in this thread. If we made changes based off quantity of posts (or even polls as some are suggesting, as if they were a reliable means to measure how many people want something), we'd go back and forth forever and never make a final decision on anything.
The dates were changed because initially some of the Staff believed some people could end up missing the launch of WotLK. In the current dates, there will be nothing stopping anyone from being able to play.
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It is what it is now. Personally, I just hope that if there is another Classic->TBC->Wotlk server after Wotlk, you will take something from the last few years with you and approach such things differently if necessary. It would have been best if you had held a vote before immediately changing the date.
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Ok :ThumbsUp:
And thanks @Palutena and warmane staff on those answered questions.
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Waiting 2 years for Wotlk just to see retail values. Most of people who were waiting for it, they expected a Frostmourne S4 revived. So sad to not play here.
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Moderator
Polls are easily rigged, as can be seen by the posts that came complain about the change. You have a vocal minority trying to appear big by complaining in a block, while the vast majority of players just isn't coming to make any posts.
On the other hand, the same logic some are using to reply to Palutena ("why would we say anything when we liked the date?") should apply now, shouldn't it? And we had over 2000 people active in the Forum within the last few minutes.
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Member
Has warmane not learnt from vanilla and tbc?
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Member
Really i would not complain if you just told us that you changed it because new dates was more comfortable for warmane staff, yeah i wont be happy but well at least it would be understandable.
But telling that you changed dates based on speculating that majority of players would like to have wotlk later feels like putting salt on wounds. Like i asked anyone around my friends or people i played with and most of them were more fine with old dates. Nobody i talked with was fine with new dates. So it kinda feels that decision was made by wrong assumption.
YOu do great job keeping this server and especially i am thankful for Onyxia realm where i was able to play vanilla and then tbc and progress all these dungeons and get this wonderful gear. But skipping holidays with wotlk because of assumption is not a good idea to be honest.
Anyway my suggestion is to delay naxxrammas release by 1-2 weeks, for most of players 1 week to level up and prepare for naxx will be not enough without holiday break during working days.
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A Message from a Disheartened Member of the Community of 14 years.
Over the years, many of us have stood by this community and its development team — through highs, lows, and everything in between. We’ve offered feedback, support, and patience, always believing that lessons would be learned, mistakes would be acknowledged, and the direction of the project would begin to reflect the voices of those who care most deeply about it.
Unfortunately, it has become painfully clear that little of that trust has been repaid. Time and again, the same missteps are repeated: decisions made on impulse, projects launched without true community involvement, and promises of improvement that never materialize. It feels as though the lessons from past failures are not being learned — or worse, not even being listened to.
What’s most disheartening isn’t just the lack of progress, but the growing sense that the community’s voice — the very foundation of this project — no longer matters. The disconnect between the developers and the players has never felt wider. And with every unconsulted change, every ignored suggestion, and every tone-deaf announcement, that gap only deepens.
We don’t expect perfection. What we’ve always hoped for is transparency, communication, and collaboration — a genuine effort to listen and improve with the community, not in spite of it. But after years of unheeded feedback and broken trust, disappointment has become the norm.
It’s heartbreaking to say, but the community that once felt like a shared passion now feels like an afterthought. Until there is meaningful change — until listening replaces guessing, and genuine dialogue replaces one-sided decision-making — the damage to this relationship will only continue to grow.
We are not angry out of hate. We are disappointed out of love — because we know what this could have been, and still could be, if only those in charge truly listened.
