Is it too much to ask to post the time zone for which you are releasing these? Lmfao…
Also it better not be 10am gmt, because that means it’s going to be 5-am est and 2am pst. Don’t think you could choose a time worser than that. Like what
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Its always server time, you can check the server time on the warmane front page you dont need a time zone for that.
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um no I just said they didn't one shot it. They played weeks of PTR and wiped hundreds of times to get to that point. Not an average guild by any means. One of far less than 1% that cleared it on launch. You can't compare it to Lordaeron because that's an endless server where players have geared for years. I can tell you the data on wotlk classic because it's available. After two months of no buff close to 10% of guilds cleared it. That would equate to around 10 guilds on Onyxia. Why? Not because of knowledge as you say, it's because of tight gear checks.
If you don't have the proper healing/dps you cannot kill Deathbringer. If you can't beat the berserk timer on BQL you will lose. PP in particular is a brutal gear check. Gear is one thing, but if players die also it's a wipe.
Anyway, the argument is that the Onyxia player base will be challenged by this content and very few will be able to ever clear it at 0% buff. I definitely know that based on what I saw in Sunwell. I highly doubt it will run long at all with a 0% buff in any case if they even decide to do it in the first place.
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says the guy named after a 20yr old female asian
im fully aware its ST. my point is why wouldnt you post the timezone so ppl can convert it to theirs
me knowing the ST does nothing, i now have to do extra work as a customer to find out what timezone they use, and then convert it to mine. this is extremely EXTRA and unnecessary emily.
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What does my name have to do with anything? XD
She is 27 not 20 years old fyi.
Whatever timezone London is in is what the server uses for server time right now.
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What? You know the server time, you supposedly know your current time, you supposedly know math if you want to convert time zones.
1. Check server time
2. Check your own time
3. Do a simple subtraction
4. Find time difference
5. ???
6. Profit.
Knowing how many hours behind or ahead of the server time you are is "extra work"? As if you wouldn't need to do the same when you're converting?
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Hi Sir Obnoxious.
Would you be so kind and provide us with the following information:
Are the Warmane dev team considering or planning to reduce the difficulty of TBC heroic RDF dungeons during the pre-patch, or perhaps provide some kind of damage/healing buff for players who queue through RDF? Since many new players who are preparing for WotLK need some sort of catch-up, and the usual method would be PvP gear—but without Season 4 available for honor, it’s much harder to gear up.
Thank you
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If such measure was planned or considered, I'd expect it to already be listed in the original post.
Even more so when the dungeons don't need any nerf at all, they simply can't be ran with the brain turned off like is the case with some content in later expansions.
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I’m not sugesting for the content to be made ‘braindead.’ The issue is that without Season 4 honor gear in pre-patch, new or returning players have no catch-up path at all. Heroic RDF still requires a certain gear level, and fresh characters can’t realistically meet it without grinding reputation, doing long quest chains, or buying expensive BoEs.
So the problem isn’t difficulty — it’s the lack of any accessible starting point for players who didn’t play TBC.
I understand if no adjustments are planned — I just wanted to ask because I’m returning now and it’s extremely hard to catch up from scratch.
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I must have missed something.
At least for me, when you ask if there's a plan to reduce the difficulty or buff players (which is effectively the same reduction in difficulty, just opposite direction), you're telling me the problem is the difficulty. But then you say it isn't.
That sorta tells me the issue is the effort it takes to gear up now, and then I think there's a conceptual disconnect here. My (very long) experience with MMOs is that you get catching-up after new content is released. Older content is made obsolete by the new stuff, and in turn the process of catching up to what's current - that is getting up to a bare minimum to participate in the new content - is easier. We aren't on new content for people to "catch up to." You "catch up" by putting in the effort now, or catch up after the expansion transition when current stuff is made obsolete.
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I think I may have expressed myself poorly earlier. I’m not saying there is anything wrong with the expansion — everything is working exactly as TBC is meant to work, and I fully understand that TBC is a progression environment that requires real hard work and commitment before accessing raids like BT / MH or Sunwell.
Maybe I used the wrong term when I called it a catch-up. I understand that there isn’t supposed to be a TBC catch-up into WotLK. What I was actually referring to is more like accessibility or onboarding for players who want to start preparing for WotLK now, at the very end of the expansion.
My point came from the earlier comment about Onyxia catering to casuals, which made me wonder whether offering a slightly smoother entry point for returning or new players might also make sense. Not because TBC content is overtuned, but because people coming back now are in a very different situation. Many of them don’t want, or simply can’t, spend 8 to 10 hours a day doing every chain quest, grinding reputation, and farming just to begin running heroics.
Without Season 4 honor gear, players returning right before WotLK don’t have any accessible baseline gear path. That makes it extremely hard for them to start RDF heroics on TBC, even though this is usually the period when people begin gearing up for the next expansion.
So my intention wasn’t to ask for the game to be made easier overall. It was simply to ask whether any kind of small accessibility adjustment was being considered for players preparing for WotLK right now, something that helps them be raid ready without the full grind that long-term players have already completed months ago.
The effort that you mention would be done by spam of rdf hc, with small rdf buffs for the groups which is something very easy, acessable and confortable for casuals
If no changes are planned, that’s totally fine. I just wanted to clarify that the concern isn’t with the difficulty of the content, but with the lack of a practical, accessible starting point for casual or returning players at the very end of TBC and it's not Warmane's fault, it is just how the expansion works.
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Well, my counterpoints that would be first, that it being casual doesn't mean it's meant to be a cruise on the beach. It just means nothing is overtuned or kept in unbuffed/unerfed states, which would be what the try-hard crowd would wish for. That's all, it has no bearing on there being reduced time and effort investment to getting geared.
And second, coming at the tail end of an expansion, on the verge of a flip to the next one, isn't a time to expect "accessibility." People played the content for months to get what they are, someone arriving now shouldn't have an easier time reaching the same point - at least not until the new expansion comes. It would be a massive slap in the face of players to watch people who stalled until now come and get "adjusted" ahead. This is my personal opinion, but no, this isn't the time to call "casual" and want to be pushed forward with boosts. That will come natural and organically when Wrath releases, there's no need for "getting prepared" now if you didn't care about it through Burning Crusade.
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The PvE route is pointless to prepare for wotlk anyway. Northrend first quest rewards are item level 138. TBC dungeons and Karazhan are only 115. Getting anywhere in PvE content at all to get better rewards than Northrend starter gear is near impossible in the time frame regardless of things made easier.
Your time preparing for wotlk should be investing gold into dual spec/mount training. Then farm PvP for the already available 136 level S2 gear and 154 off pieces. You'll find the stats on PvP gear much better for leveling. Play ten arena games in Solo Queue or a 5 v 5 team if you can find it and buy a piece or two of S3/S4 before launch. No point wasting time on anything else that's you'll replace in a nanosecond anyways.
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There is no need to introduce any special catch up mechanic. Basically during prepatch not oinly characters will get new talents and spells that will make them more powerful than they should be, but also SWP gets nerfed at introduction of prepatch.
But to be honest, you dont need TBC engame gear to prepare your character for wotlk because most likely sooner or later you will replace your TBC SWP gear. Basically all you need to prepare your character for wotlk during TBC is leveling your character up to 68 lvl and of course leveling professions you gonna use in wotlk, you dont need to do raids to get these. First wotlk dungeons like UK or Nexus can be done in green items you get from tbc quests or you can get some cheap tbc boe gear or if you have specific profession, you can just craft your own gear and you willl be totally fine, better gear is basically optional especially when you will quickly replace your gear pieces when you get into high level dungeons (Like UP, Oculus, COS or HoL) and then into heroic wotlk dungeons.
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When does the zombie event start?
