Ok so there is a seperate realm where you are:
- instant 70
- free 300+ resilience gear from start
- free mounts
- free exalted reputation enchants
- nearly free enchants and gems
- free mounts
- extra daily quests to get more honor per day compared to onyxia players
- sunwel gear boxes, food & flasks for trivial honor cost
- free soul shards, bandages, weapon poisons, potions
and yet.. yet you get queued against people on Onyxia who not only have to spend many hours getting to 70 but then again hours to even get to the gear level Blackrock players get for typing in a character name.
So how is this at all fair to Onyxia players? I can not think of 1 reasonable argument for Blackrock and Onyxia to share a battlegroup.
Help me understand, because I am either missing something or this should simply not exist.
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Member
Help me understand blackrock
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Member
Let me already invalidate the expectable replies. I'd rather have no PVP games or hours long queue than get rekt in unfair games.
Queue times and bigger player pool are NO good reason to do this.
No one on the Onyxia realm has any chance to win Arena titles, its basicly cheating.
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Member
you're looking for an answer that doesn't exist. there is no valid reason.
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Forum Veteran
Blackrock has forced mercenary mode and fills any gaps in the PvP queue. Not difficult to understand.
If you just made a toon recently then you're late. The game will be unfair to you anyway. You don't join WoW a month before the next expansion and expect to be the top arena team. You're playing the wrong game if you thought that was possible.
If you are going into wotlk on Onyxia and play the game at all then everything you mentioned on that list is going to happen. The absolute bare minimum to even progress in the game. If you don't plan on raiding and only want to PvP then please by all means go play on Blackrock. It doesn't require a parental permission slip. Nothing stopping you at all from having both an Onyxia and Blackrock toon simultaneously either. If you do actually plan to play Onyxia and the full content of this game and you can't beat a Blackrock player then you're bad at the game. They don't get any real advantage over someone that would actually compete at a high level.
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Member
ah i see how you are confused.. but no i am not new and i don't even play pvp. so it's not a matter of ''git gud'' as your entire reply is just a long form of that.
and nothing in your reply suggest it isn't at all unfair. so what wotlk comes out and all the time people spending going 70-80, grinding sons of hodir to exalted, spending countless hours grinding pvp gear to catch up to someone on blackrock just clicking 'create ' in character select.
so yes it is unfair to onyxia players is the only conclusion.
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The Lightbringer
You're complaining about players from a realm you don't even interact with?
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Forum Veteran
That isn't how it will work. Blackrock is launched after the general Onyxia population establishes itself at level 80. Onyxia will actually have a head start on PvP gear. Reputation on Blackrock is farmed through PvP quest alternatives. Blackrock has to farm current arena gear the same way as Onyxia. The PvE lock boxes actually take more time to farm than raiding on Onyxia.
Everything you can think of on Onyxia as grinding or effort was translated into a PvP format on Blackrock. If an Onyxia player wanted to compete in PvP then they are able to do so with less time invested than on Blackrock. As far as fairness goes, Onyxia actually has the time advantage.
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Member
he's not complaining. and do you have to interact with an injustice to speak out against it? that would be odd for the anti war protestors and such.
Edited: December 8, 2025
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The Lightbringer
Games are different from IRL, it's best to keep it that way and not draw parallels between them.
He's expressing his dissatisfaction about Onyxia players being paired with and against Blackrock players, thus he is complaining.
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