WotLK Issues with BG Matchmaking – Multiboxing and Pre-made GY Farming

[maastani]

Hello everyone,

I’m writing to bring attention to a recurring issue with the current state of Random Battlegrounds, specifically regarding Alterac Valley (AV) and Isle of Conquest (IOC).

Lately, it has become nearly impossible to have a competitive match due to being repeatedly matched against the same organized Horde groups (specifically players like Kenzz and associated multiboxers). In my last session, I was placed into five consecutive games against the same group where the "gameplay" consisted entirely of our team being graveyard farmed.

The main issues are:
1. Queue Randomization: Despite queuing for a "random" BG, players are being funneled into the same lopsided instances repeatedly.
2. Multiboxing Impact: Having one or two multiboxers in a 40-man BG significantly disrupts the balance, especially when they are part of a coordinated pre-made.
3. Player Retention: Many players are simply leaving these matches immediately, leading to "Deserter" debuffs and a general decline in the quality of PvP on the server.

Suggestions for the Dev Team:
1. Stricter Pre-made Matching: Implement a system that prioritizes matching large groups against other large groups.
2. Queue Cooldowns: Improve the randomization logic so players aren't repeatedly dropped into the same instance they just left or finished.
3. Review Multiboxing in BGs: Consider whether multiboxing should be restricted within 40-man Battlegrounds to ensure a fair experience for solo players.

I enjoy the server, but the current state of the BG queue makes it feel like a waste of time rather than a game. I’d love to hear if other players are experiencing this and if there are any plans from the staff to address the matchmaking logic.

[Vajcovod]

You are just another in line pointing out this problem (certainly not the last), but as always this issue will be ignored. The Warmane team does not see any problem with how BGs and these groups function, so they have no willingness to do anything about it. The fact that active players see it as a problem does not concern the Warmane team.

There have been many proposals on how to improve the gameplay experience for all players who are not members of these organized groups. Some of them were completely crazy, some were almost unnoticeable, but they would have effectively prevented these groups from exploiting BGs.

Everything has always been rejected, repeatedly.

The best way to fight against these groups is to leave BGs or not play BGs at all.

[HachyKostic]

I got For the Horde when Neu division were small guild and did not have full 40 men premade, I was a pag from other realm btw, it was join AV/Ioc as Horde and if you got with HK farmers you can win or que random and end up against same ally primades farming all the rest of BG's 24/7 with bis gear, so yea I qued to AV/Ioc for a long time to avoid ally primades, this server is really bad for casuals, and they ain't gonna do premade only bracket, proof is other server ( can't say name do to rules here even if that server does not exist for years) held a vote on discord to separate twing vs regular brackets (they had bonus xp for rbg during leveling) so vote was to separate, and twink scene died after a week when it was only twinks vs twinks lol, if you do premade vs premade only bracket you can bet your *** every single pvp guild will stop playing it lol or will find some other way to feel good about farming random, so they ain't gonna do anything about it, and most of those pvp guilds most people there have SM and full wratfull without a single Icc or arena match (I saw it on armory for lot of tham) so they are pure donors and Warmane ain't about to lose money by making donors game play worst, this ain't insolting donors so I'm not braking rules, this is pure statement about what it is, I never donated to this server, how could I when I enter 10 rbg as Horde and lose 9 to premades lol, so I just leave in 30 sec if it's premade, and if not I try my best, so yea pvp state here is bad and it ain't gonna change.