WotLK [Guide] ArmsWarrior [PvP]

[RaidenT900]

Shield Bash VS Pummel


Shield Bash


Pros: Daze effect meaning slow/snare/movement impairing effect and your in defensive stance which means you can activate a spell reflect just in case

Cons: Requires time to unequip/equip and change stance


Pummel

Pros: Fastest way to interrupt spell casting in close range

Cons: Doesn't do anything besides interrupt the spell


The only problem in using these skills is that the target jumps around, runs around like a chicken which means goodluck using these. /gg

how can the target cast spells if he jumps or run around?

[Ragetotem]

When you get snared 24/7 and Charge/Intercept is in cooldown, getting kited like 10 yards away and you just can't reach 'em for that interrupt.

Whenever I reach 'em I always snare and use MS/OP, using Pummel or Shield Bash sometimes doesn't even cross my mind.

Its kill or be killed, the faster you kill 'em the lesser threat they become. But thats just me, and I'm talking about Frost Mages. A friend once told me that you can turtle your way through a Frost Mage, use everything when you get close and tank the Frost Mage when Charge/Intercept is in CD, but I never tried it.

[TjcX]

Lol'd

You can use shield bash in battle stance and the interupt is 1 second longer so I prefer to use that. If I'm really looking to interupt quick ill just put out some pressure in zerker stance and pummel.

Also you can spell reflect in battle stance :/

Learn your class before posting here as if you actually know what your talking about.

[Ragetotem]

Lol'd

You can use shield bash in battle stance and the interupt is 1 second longer so I prefer to use that. If I'm really looking to interupt quick ill just put out some pressure in zerker stance and pummel.

Also you can spell reflect in battle stance :/

Learn your class before posting here as if you actually know what your talking about.

I actually didn't know about that, ooopppssiieee daisy :D.

So that means that Shield Bash is better than Pummel since it can daze and equipping a 1Hander+Shield is faster than changing stances.

[RaidenT900]

I actually didn't know about that, ooopppssiieee daisy :D.

So that means that Shield Bash is better than Pummel since it can daze and equipping a 1Hander+Shield is faster than changing stances.

yeah alot better, trust me

[Ragetotem]

yeah alot better, trust me

Thank you good sir, much to learn I still have. :o

[bennyboyrule]

Mr. Blind starts to insult. Please, read properly "Gfurious created this guide". Enough.

Great you notice my sunglasses

[Battlebeast]

Umm... Double Healer... Waste?
what about dispel cleave? It was high ranked in wotlk
and where are /cancelaura Bladestorm macros within spell reflection / shield bash
bleedcleave? wtf is that? I've heard about Kitty Cleave
No ATC mentioning? (African Turtle Cleave - Prot war / mm hunt / paladin)

I found that guide to be a basic one, not bringing anything important.

[acexyz]

umm i am wondering what would be bis throw wep

just dont tell me its gluth hc :D well at least from what i see atm its wrath war edge, but if gluth would have been available then would it be better? since i am not quite sure myself

PS
since softcap to hit is 164 thats 5% so hardcap would be double 328 thats 10% to ensure hit on each nelf dk and any mage, right? now how much is it worth it? i was thinkin to aim for like 7% i think that would be good enough anyway

[Yoshimang]

Umm... Double Healer... Waste?
what about dispel cleave? It was high ranked in wotlk
and where are /cancelaura Bladestorm macros within spell reflection / shield bash
bleedcleave? wtf is that? I've heard about Kitty Cleave
No ATC mentioning? (African Turtle Cleave - Prot war / mm hunt / paladin)

I found that guide to be a basic one, not bringing anything important.

Maybe im wrong.. This guide is called ArmsWarrior 3.3.5a PvP Guide, its not Protection guide, thats why there's no ATC..?

@Double Healer => Dispel Cleave. Well.. this combo is pretty ******ed due the OPness of it. In this comb the priest is somethng like 2nd DPS on each fear/stun, so its.. ******ed combo. Only TSG can beat this.

@Bleedcleave
Its called Bleedcleave due the Trauma effect & Feral druid's bleed damage. But ppl call it kitty cleave, cause the druid plays in cat form 24/7. He rarely goes defensive.

@Acexyz
Gluth's best due the hit + gem for hit and, cloak with hit & the icc belt (arp+hit) gives you the hit cap.
Hmm 175 hit is pretty enough, I rarely miss and if I miss, I miss vs ret paladins/rdruids with skin on.
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Shield Bash VS Pummel


Shield Bash


Pros: Daze effect meaning slow/snare/movement impairing effect and your in defensive stance which means you can activate a spell reflect just in case

Cons: Requires time to unequip/equip and change stance


Pummel

Pros: Fastest way to interrupt spell casting in close range

Cons: Doesn't do anything besides interrupt the spell


The only problem in using these skills is that the target jumps around, runs around like a chicken which means goodluck using these. /gg

Well, first of all, you can use Shield Bash in Battle Stance :< I prefer shield bash because: Equipping wep gives you 1 sec GCD, which means you need to use your brain, so u can interrupt. If you interrupt him, it'll be good if you go back to 2handed, so you can do some damage, which means another 1sec GCD will come => 5sec interrupt inc. Due the talents of some healers, they got reduced interrupt effect, which means => 4sec interrupt. Thats for shield Bash.

Lets go for pummel: 4sec interrupt, you need to go back to Battle Stance @ Overpower, which means that your interrupt is 3sec now & with the talents ~2s/2.5s, so SHIELD BASH IMO IS THE BEST! :)


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Umm... Double Healer... Waste?
what about dispel cleave? It was high ranked in wotlk
and where are /cancelaura Bladestorm macros within spell reflection / shield bash
bleedcleave? wtf is that? I've heard about Kitty Cleave
No ATC mentioning? (African Turtle Cleave - Prot war / mm hunt / paladin)

I found that guide to be a basic one, not bringing anything important.

Greetings, Mr.BlindWarrior.

If you check the @Macros section in this topic, you'll see that.. uhmm.. wtf.. there is /cancelaura Bladestorm & Spell Reflection/Shield Bash macros. Regards, Yoshimang.

[acexyz]

yeah oke thats good answer but... belt... nope i dont think so.. icc belt flesh shaper strap has crit not arp, and if you compare it with eof belt malevolent girdle.... i see it gives same things but with higher values and its easier to obtain imo

icc belt
eof belt

[Neiras]

Shield Bash VS Pummel


Shield Bash


Pros: Daze effect meaning slow/snare/movement impairing effect and your in defensive stance which means you can activate a spell reflect just in case

Cons: Requires time to unequip/equip and change stance


Pummel

Pros: Fastest way to interrupt spell casting in close range

Cons: Doesn't do anything besides interrupt the spell


The only problem in using these skills is that the target jumps around, runs around like a chicken which means goodluck using these. /gg

Shield Bash and Spell Reflection can both be used in Battle stance :)

[Ricks2]

yeah oke thats good answer but... belt... nope i dont think so.. icc belt flesh shaper strap has crit not arp, and if you compare it with eof belt malevolent girdle.... i see it gives same things but with higher values and its easier to obtain imo

icc belt
eof belt

amazing cata links bro

you obviously know your ****

[acexyz]

amazing cata links bro

you obviously know your ****

well wasnt thinkin about it at time of postin since i was lookin at guide links (link in yoshimang post is also cata link), eof link is same in cata as in wotlk, but yeah icc belt isnt

[Yoshimang]

yeah oke thats good answer but... belt... nope i dont think so.. icc belt flesh shaper strap has crit not arp, and if you compare it with eof belt malevolent girdle.... i see it gives same things but with higher values and its easier to obtain imo

icc belt
eof belt

Mr.Holmes, if you had any idea about Flesh-Shaper's Gurney Strap, you would've know that it gives 64 hit & 80 arp. Wowhead and such a kind of websites are with cataclysm data. In cataclysm arp has been removed. END.