WotLK [Guide] ArmsWarrior [PvP]

[TjcX]

^ Go learn the difference between Arp and sunder armor then come back.

[TjcX]

Sunder armor reduces the enemies armor and armor penetration IGNORES the enemies armor.

so 80% arp + 20% sunder doesn't mean you will ignore all the enemies armor.


Lets say your fighting a paladin that has 20k armor.

You stack 5 sunder armors to reduce his armor by 20%. He now has 16k armor.
If you have 100% arp you will ignore 15k of his armor (15k is the MAXIMUM you can ignore) so now he is left with 1k armor.

I'm kinda stuggling to explain this lol but if your enemy has over 15k armor that means 100% arp still leaves them with SOME armor left but using sunder armor you can actually bring there armor below the cap and sometimes leave them with 0 armor.

[Baatezu]

Sunder armor reduces the enemies armor and armor penetration IGNORES the enemies armor.

so 80% arp + 20% sunder doesn't mean you will ignore all the enemies armor.


Lets say your fighting a paladin that has 20k armor.

You stack 5 sunder armors to reduce his armor by 20%. He now has 16k armor.
If you have 100% arp you will ignore 15k of his armor (15k is the MAXIMUM you can ignore) so now he is left with 1k armor.

I'm kinda stuggling to explain this lol but if your enemy has over 15k armor that means 100% arp still leaves them with SOME armor left but using sunder armor you can actually bring there armor below the cap and sometimes leave them with 0 armor.

It is Not that simple pls learn about armor penetration formulas and use an arp calculator. You will see the target will have around 5.5k armor left, not 1k. Its huge difference

[TjcX]

^ It is you that needs to learn.

[Baatezu]

^ It is you that needs to learn.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Armor_penetration
http://eu-warrior.com/arpen.html
Well these sources tell otherwise

[Shaidon]

Thanks, it's really cool guide!

[DatRiP]

what abut the profession for arms warrior, it isnt important?

If isnt too important but the best ones are blacksmithing and jewelcrafting

[Cripp]

If im tauren its better to choose herbalism?

In my opinion herbalism for a warr is only good for lower levels coz then u can heal like half of ur hp,but at bigger ones its better to take blacksmith/engi or blacksmith/jewelcrafting

[Ragetotem]

Sunder armor reduces the enemies armor and armor penetration IGNORES the enemies armor.

so 80% arp + 20% sunder doesn't mean you will ignore all the enemies armor.


Lets say your fighting a paladin that has 20k armor.

You stack 5 sunder armors to reduce his armor by 20%. He now has 16k armor.
If you have 100% arp you will ignore 15k of his armor (15k is the MAXIMUM you can ignore) so now he is left with 1k armor.

I'm kinda stuggling to explain this lol but if your enemy has over 15k armor that means 100% arp still leaves them with SOME armor left but using sunder armor you can actually bring there armor below the cap and sometimes leave them with 0 armor.

And these are based on what source(s)?


The other guys sources seems legit. :)

[TjcX]

http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/14...rated-players/

i trust arena glads more than links people give here that they can't even read properly.

[Offbeat]

About Arp: There is a cap on how much armor it can ignore, so even if you have 100% Arp, the target will still have some armor left. Sunder reduces the armor (on their caracter sheet) of whatever target you apply it to but 20%. What this means for Arp is that essentially, the amount of armor the target still has left after the arp formula is applied, will be even lower.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Armor_penetration

Check the quote from GC at the bottom.

[Jeroge]

A minor detail, both Shield Bash and Spell Reflection can be used in Battle Stance, seems like a lot of people don't know this and makes it really obvious when they're gonna cast them.

[Konstantinus]

Great guide, it helped me a lot with PvP and all, as I got Arms as my second spec... Thanks for sharing, the guide was really enlightening and helpful!

[BlackKingBar]

Nice guide :D
(he is the best war in warsong btw)

[nodoka619]

i like night elf, they can dance like Michael Jackson too haha