WotLK [Guide] PvP Enhancement Shaman

[robitzy]

Ty for the superb guide, helped alot. However, i need a little help: can someone post the talent builds with other talent calculator? The molten armory isnt working... :(

[carlosgs]

Nice guide, i've to thank u, learned a lot of things here.

[Pregosaurus]

Cba to read 11 pages of thread so im gonna ask it anyways, I tried WF Only in my main hand (offhand in the bag) on training dummy and it procs, I then tried WF in my off hand, on dummy, with main hand in bag, no proc..not a single proc in 2 hours, how can it be better WF WF if the off hand isn't proccing?:eek: help :confused:
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and btw 5 stars guide ;), made me laugh and was really helpful

I also loved the guide, got me playing enhance again. I did some testing tonight, here is what i found.

2h windfury glpyh 288 dps 3.6 (auto attack + windfury only) 1490 dps
1h/1h 178/171dps 2.6/2.6 (auto attack + windfury / windfury) 1285 dps
1h/1h 178/178dps 2.6/1.5 (auto attack + windfury/windfury) 1788 dps

How can this be? What I found after 3 minutes of auto attack with each setup was that windfury can only proc off your main hand weapon! This means having a fast off hand increases your chance of windfury procs. Recount showed windfury has 55% of my overall damage where as Slow/Slow it was only 37.9% of my overall damage.

[l3g10nw]

Ty for the superb guide, helped alot. However, i need a little help: can someone post the talent builds with other talent calculator? The molten armory isnt working... :(

np :)

i uploaded a pic with a good talent tree, check guide.

Nice guide, i've to thank u, learned a lot of things here.

thank you :D

I also loved the guide, got me playing enhance again. I did some testing tonight, here is what i found.

2h windfury glpyh 288 dps 3.6 (auto attack + windfury only) 1490 dps
1h/1h 178/171dps 2.6/2.6 (auto attack + windfury / windfury) 1285 dps
1h/1h 178/178dps 2.6/1.5 (auto attack + windfury/windfury) 1788 dps

How can this be? What I found after 3 minutes of auto attack with each setup was that windfury can only proc off your main hand weapon! This means having a fast off hand increases your chance of windfury procs. Recount showed windfury has 55% of my overall damage where as Slow/Slow it was only 37.9% of my overall damage.

interesting. i have to make that test, ill do it when i have time.

[Bieberkiller]

I also loved the guide, got me playing enhance again. I did some testing tonight, here is what i found.

2h windfury glpyh 288 dps 3.6 (auto attack + windfury only) 1490 dps
1h/1h 178/171dps 2.6/2.6 (auto attack + windfury / windfury) 1285 dps
1h/1h 178/178dps 2.6/1.5 (auto attack + windfury/windfury) 1788 dps

How can this be? What I found after 3 minutes of auto attack with each setup was that windfury can only proc off your main hand weapon! This means having a fast off hand increases your chance of windfury procs. Recount showed windfury has 55% of my overall damage where as Slow/Slow it was only 37.9% of my overall damage.

hmmm....
well, i think for PvE, it could make a difference then, but for PvP, you don't always stick on your opponent. :(
but then you say, you can't proc WF from your OH?
do you mean the dmg is always calculated out of the MH's dmg, or that WF on OH just doesn't work? (imbue only on OH and test on dummy?)
then again, get a slow OH and a fast MH, and you can do the test again, see if the dmg is lower :)
if so, you could be right if you say that WF only procs from MH...
that'd seem like a Molten Bug to me tho... BUT a positive one! :D

[l3g10nw]

Well, i do have to answer to this one. It is a detailed guide that is wrong on some parts, for instance claiming that Shadow priests are meh for any enhance, A similar skilled Spriest will ALWAYS and i do mean ALWAYS beat enhance, just to the fact that we cant overheal their dots and that they will ALWAYS destroy tremor before fearing you.

That being said, i like how detailed it is, even though you could clarify some things.
What i dont like is the amount of pics and ugly coloured text. Please for future reference, minimize that.

Overall i like the guide , with exceptions of pictures.


The guide is very nice, however it can be improved. I do like that you made it not just an endgame guide.

lol
enh>>>>>>>>>priest
enh is casters anti. purge, windshear, tremor, and cleanse totem pwns.
if u destroy tremor.... i drop it again.
if u use vampiric touch.... windshear.... if u manage to trick me with fake casting.... grounding totem is awesome.
devouring plague.... u dont even have to bother to counter that ability, ur totem does it for u.
if u use shield.... purge.
if u try to dot and hide... bad luck. u will be always slowed with fb and fs. plus we can use ghost wolf and spirit wolf.
also, warlocks are rly easy to beat but i think spriest is easier lol.
sometimes i play cata i can beat spriest, but now its harder. u are not that op with purge and cleanse totem now.

about the colors and pics... hmmm
pics are needed for ppl new to wow. they help them a lot cuz they dont rly understand the game and its a big help just to c what they have to do.
about funny pics.. hmmm
u may find them boring but many ppl find them funny and they inspire the reader to keep reading cuz of the fact that the guide has a lil bit of humor. many ppl have told me that those pics and the way i talk is funny.
also im a troll guide, right now im typing this and joking with my friend lol
he says u take the game seriously lol

about colors... hmmmm
red colors are for important things. i put a color to an specific class like shaman is blue text, etc.
green color is a link. the blue text in "weapon" section is a troll. the cyan text with quotes, is another troll. well, maybe it isnt rly for u.

i can clarify many things but remember i dont play wow like i used to play it. its a lil bit harder now cuz i dont even remember abilities names lol.
but i can make the effort, just tell me what to change/fix/add.

anyways, have a nice day and thanks for telling me.

[Bieberkiller]

Well, i do have to answer to this one. It is a detailed guide that is wrong on some parts, for instance claiming that Shadow priests are meh for any enhance, A similar skilled Spriest will ALWAYS and i do mean ALWAYS beat enhance, just to the fact that we cant overheal their dots and that they will ALWAYS destroy tremor before fearing you.

That being said, i like how detailed it is, even though you could clarify some things.
What i dont like is the amount of pics and ugly coloured text. Please for future reference, minimize that.

Overall i like the guide , with exceptions of pictures.


The guide is very nice, however it can be improved. I do like that you made it not just an endgame guide.

i'm following the guidemaker:
spriest vs enh => enh wins with equal gear.
ok, you can't outheal the dots, but you only have to deal with 1 dot if you play it well.
dispell (with our without totem) the DP, WS the VP.
purge the shield, use your own shield, drop frequently grounding and tremor.
when he disperses, dispell, heal, don't waste abilities.
it is not that hard to beat spriest, they are only quite the challenge in full wf and hero and wolves on cd. (i'm not full wf, only wf legs, rest is rele)

[TheChosenWawn]

Great guide but, a question I've had for quite some time is:
If you're an orc shaman, what's the point of getting the wrathful cleaver/axes instead of the wrathful fist weapons? I just don't see the point in getting an axe whereas fist weapons are treated as the "unarmed" weapon skill.
"Because they are treated as the "unarmed" weapon skill, fist weapons, when disarmed or dismantled, still deal their damage even though many class-specific weapon-dependent abilities are not available."
Stats are exactly the same..plus they look cooler [imo] and you can pummel some gnomes into ground beef. Tis a gratifying experience

[l3g10nw]

Great guide but, a question I've had for quite some time is:
If you're an orc shaman, what's the point of getting the wrathful cleaver/axes instead of the wrathful fist weapons? I just don't see the point in getting an axe whereas fist weapons are treated as the "unarmed" weapon skill.
"Because they are treated as the "unarmed" weapon skill, fist weapons, when disarmed or dismantled, still deal their damage even though many class-specific weapon-dependent abilities are not available."
Stats are exactly the same..plus they look cooler [imo] and you can pummel some gnomes into ground beef. Tis a gratifying experience

get fist weapon with if u are an orc shaman.

[mysticmota]

Is enha damage broken against plate wearers ? i find impossible to kill a hpaladin. i Have wrath weapons and 2-5 wrath gear and the rest relentless, with ap and SP gems.

[l3g10nw]

Is enha damage broken against plate wearers ? i find impossible to kill a hpaladin. i Have wrath weapons and 2-5 wrath gear and the rest relentless, with ap and SP gems.

we suck againts arms warr, hpala and udk.
we are the best against clothes... not againts plate users (except for ret pala, we do good against them).
when u c a war,u dk or hpala... avoid them/run for ur life lol
if u c a cloth user, kill that moron lol.

[Odinn]

i got saa and its op for wf ICD

[Fliss]

Great guide, very indepth.

[l3g10nw]

i got saa and its op for wf ICD

yeah its rly cool for wf icd.

Great guide, very indepth.

thank you :)

[M3Series]

glyph ur stoneclaw . . .that's the key to beat any other class out there