1. Maybe its because im a noob but... Zul Aman being P4 content whilst P3 items are better is kinda weird to me... BT items are 141 Up to 156 for Glaives ilvl whilst ZA items are 128 Up to 141 for Timed Rings
    Apart from Achivements and possible Tmog whats the point of doing it? Can someone make it makes sense to this Noob?

    Thank you in advance
    ZA is basically like Zul'Gurub in Vanilla. I believe it's original purpose is to help people who start playing in later phases to gear up to an OK'ish level so they have better chances to join the "main" raids. It would require a lot of work to start raiding from the beginning trough all the previous content and clear them enough times to get at least somewhat geared at this point. Also there are some optional "bis"-items for some classes and individuals that may have not gotten their upgrades from T3.


    It would be nice to get some sort of eta or anything really regarding wrath now that p5 has gone live.
    The Vanilla phase of Onyxia lasted pretty much exactly an year:
    - Vanilla was launched 18th of November 2023
    - TBC pre-patch came out 2nd of November 2024
    - Outland was accessible and TBC officially started on 16th of November 2024
    - The first TBC raids came out on 23rd of November 2024.

    Based on the schedule TBC content has been released I am assuming it's gonna be pretty much the same with WOTLK. So my guess is that WOTLK pre-patch will be launched around November 02, 2025 and the official transition will be about 2-3 weeks from that. Hope this helps at least a bit! :)

  2. Yes they often have a 1 year timeline for each of their xpacks on seasonal realms.
    But I sure as hell hope we don't get the information about Wrath as late as we did for TBC during vanilla, we got the release date ~1 month in advance from the pre-patch.

  3. I mean what does it matter if they officially announce it just 1 month in advance? You already know it's coming soon and you can assume it will be somewhere around November. What purpose does the official announce serve in preparing for the transition? I'm not trying to be a d*ck here, just honestly wondering why does it matter.

  4. I just want a approximate date, that's all. Especially if the timeline is is delayed beyond November (most likely will be) to give us atleast 3 months of SWP instead of 2 that November 20th would do.

  5. No possible way it's happening in November. Season 4 just came out and we're all in wipe fest mode on Sunwell. Plan on pre-patch launch early January. We get 3 months minimum of this phase and they're not launching it on the holidays. Common sense.

    If it were my choice I'd nerf the crap out of Sunwell and double arena points in Season 4 then get this thing over with. Launch November and send it. Wrath baby!

  6. No possible way it's happening in November. Season 4 just came out and we're all in wipe fest mode on Sunwell. Plan on pre-patch launch early January. We get 3 months minimum of this phase and they're not launching it on the holidays. Common sense.

    If it were my choice I'd nerf the crap out of Sunwell and double arena points in Season 4 then get this thing over with. Launch November and send it. Wrath baby!
    server started mid november 23 - we had tbc pretach start of november and 16th of november tbc.. go figure <.<


  7. Is at least the month defined? so we can plan ahead? November/december/january???

  8. When will all the attunements be removed so that one can enter BT and Hiyjal without being bound to do SSC and TK?
    Thanks :)


  9. server started mid november 23 - we had tbc pretach start of november and 16th of november tbc.. go figure <.<
    use brain... u think there will be 1 month of s4?
    wotlk is not rdy yet either... my guess is prepatch mid dec, release jan 2nd

  10. use brain... u think there will be 1 month of s4?
    wotlk is not rdy yet either... my guess is prepatch mid dec, release jan 2nd
    most people are just hitting 70 and farming bgs for honor cap. there is nothing else to do. better they release wotlk sooner than go for another 2 month of SWP.

  11. use brain... u think there will be 1 month of s4?
    wotlk is not rdy yet either... my guess is prepatch mid dec, release jan 2nd
    Agreed, arena season just started. I hope your timeline is the one we'll get, pre patch in mid dec and wotlk start of 2026.

    People are still clearing SWP as we speak, sure some guilds stopped but most still wants KJ kill or more under their belts.



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