Other classes are far behind, dude the fck are you on about? How many different classes do you even play? To say something stupid as that, i play different classes, you think enh shammy is op because of how high he can crit you with lava lash? Someone already posted a ss about mages, i play a retri pala and pls say how this isn't op when i can insta cast my templars verdict 3 times and my hits go like, 37k, 38k and 43k plus 32k exorcisms, 24k crusader strike etc, why no qq about that? Because enh shammys got one high crit with lava lash luuul, why are you waiting with the ss? Or are you doings bgs and hoping to go against a geared enh shammy to get a ss? And rogues when they start on you, taking almost half of your hp down, got to love them.
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Don't forget the hunters! Other classes except enh/ele shammy have so many defensive skills and more time to kill you, but with ele/enh it really does count how fast you can take your opponent down, really no time to make mistakes.
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Someone mains an enhance.
Windfury is so horribly bugged that is makes the class playable by autistic four year olds, Lava Lash is scaling way too high, et cetera.
Rets are just overscaling, it has something to do with Ret's AP --> SP conversion ratios. Who knows what the **** is wrong with 25k backstabs, or why warriors are hitting 35k Mortal Strikes and 30k Slams.
Enhance is probably by far the worst broken though, mostly because of Windfury.
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That comparison is just stupid, to bring in a child who has a disability to compare how op some class is, seen this done to other classes too. Funny how overlooked 83k ice lance ss was on a geared target. This is Molten you can't expect every class to work the way it should. Many classes are bugged and if something seems to be too bugged, there's bugtracker and please upload it there.
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It works just like searing totem, very op very op, did give a vote up for it.
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And it also Pulses for damage as well. which means 2x damage.
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i wonder how's this related to enhancement spec ? like i really wonder how enhancement shamans can obtain this totem .. (thread is obviously about one particular spec...)
Shiina it's extremely easy to test on warsong, please - do it. all what you have to do - is create a shaman, choose enhancement spec, read tooltip. (part about 4430 bonus attack power part ...)
http://www.wowwiki.com/Windfury_Weapon
please do so. and post results here. it's extremely easy - you aint need to know nothing about class, you simply auto-attack dummies if you think it's overscaling or overproccing.
lavalash scaling too high ? so you want us to hit with our hardest hitting ability like ... 10-15k considering that you must have 5 stacks of totem, and burst cd's up ? read how does lavalash work to pull-off great crit damage (crit, not hit, which is a big difference ...)
also - take a look into this buh ---> HERE <---
47xx resil feral druid duel, please check that i got windfury imbue on my nokaeled axe (403 one), and as you can see - there's no wf procs at all @that duel, how's it bugged again ? also i use 410 elite weapon in my offhand with flametongue imbue to boost lavalashes damage, how's it overstacking again ?
duel with a 2990 resil rogue (pve geared mostly, around 395ilvl, was extremely hard duel...)
it overscales, again, right ?
do i upload 54k execute on my 4470 ? or perhaps 80+ k ice lance ?(tho i already did ....) what about 11k censure ? dot from a ret ?
trololo my 372 nab rogue hits for constant 32k+ stabs(okay, maybe a bit less, still 18k+ each is eaz mode) ... and it's just 372 with 359pvp dagger in OH, 378 ET one in MH weapons kek ....
3 pages, yet noone still quoted / nor argued about bis 416 nokaled axes .... funnnnn.
this class (spec) was screwed since cata went live(you can read bugtracker at least ... it could be considered as one of the buggiest (negative) specs on molten since cata day one.. ain't happening again.
please, point me @ where do i search anything related top "Overpowered", and i'll take a look into it.. cuz at this moment i just cannot find issues with damage being high without those epic axes (i cannot buy'em, sorry..) and / or bug-abusing / cheating / exploiting of any kind involved.
PS. as an rdruid main - i hate alot purge. i just hate it . :D also im more than happy to do some testings, just point our what bothers you most (except lavalash)
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Thanks, for testing! Dats just sad when a full cata gear shaman deal 20k lava lash on a ruth cloth guys :(i wonder how's this related to enhancement spec ? like i really wonder how enhancement shamans can obtain this totem .. (thread is obviously about one particular spec...)
Shiina it's extremely easy to test on warsong, please - do it. all what you have to do - is create a shaman, choose enhancement spec, read tooltip. (part about 4430 bonus attack power part ...)
http://www.wowwiki.com/Windfury_Weapon
please do so. and post results here. it's extremely easy - you aint need to know nothing about class, you simply auto-attack dummies if you think it's overscaling or overproccing.
lavalash scaling too high ? so you want us to hit with our hardest hitting ability like ... 10-15k considering that you must have 5 stacks of totem, and burst cd's up ? read how does lavalash work to pull-off great crit damage (crit, not hit, which is a big difference ...)
also - take a look into this buh ---> HERE <---
47xx resil feral druid duel, please check that i got windfury imbue on my nokaeled axe (403 one), and as you can see - there's no wf procs at all @that duel, how's it bugged again ? also i use 410 elite weapon in my offhand with flametongue imbue to boost lavalashes damage, how's it overstacking again ?
duel with a 2990 resil rogue (pve geared mostly, around 395ilvl, was extremely hard duel...)
it overscales, again, right ?
do i upload 54k execute on my 4470 ? or perhaps 80+ k ice lance ?(tho i already did ....) what about 11k censure ? dot from a ret ?
trololo my 372 nab rogue hits for constant 32k+ stabs(okay, maybe a bit less, still 18k+ each is eaz mode) ... and it's just 372 with 359pvp dagger in OH, 378 ET one in MH weapons kek ....
3 pages, yet noone still quoted / nor argued about bis 416 nokaled axes .... funnnnn.
this class (spec) was screwed since cata went live(you can read bugtracker at least ... it could be considered as one of the buggiest (negative) specs on molten since cata day one.. ain't happening again.
please, point me @ where do i search anything related top "Overpowered", and i'll take a look into it.. cuz at this moment i just cannot find issues with damage being high without those epic axes (i cannot buy'em, sorry..) and / or bug-abusing / cheating / exploiting of any kind involved.
PS. as an rdruid main - i hate alot purge. i just hate it . :D also im more than happy to do some testings, just point our what bothers you most (except lavalash)
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actually these cannot be considered as a full tests, as these are just a duel results, also as you can see - im nearly fully buffed (standart pvp buffs, like flask of the winds, druids mark, rogues 5% crit chance)
skada data says it all, if WF imbue would be broken or overscaling, shouldn't it be like .. somewhere @ top damage done abilities ? as you can see my lavalash did a maximum of 49k crit, which is again buffed with 5 stacks of totem, under wolves and +1200 agil potion paired with 2400 agil pvp trinket, tho i still think it was made on some mob, rather than on that rogue, which isnt actually that big of a deal, as i cannot find 49k burst damage crit (having 410 elite weapon in OH) as a overscaling one. (again, nearly all classes pulls same crit damage (like c'mon .. hunters are simply 4shooting nearly anything in los.. just like rets...) , and some even more.
fix expertise, sick and tired to be dodged / parried by cloth users, having 20/20 (21/21 is same) exp cap for pvp. and no, they aint stacking dodge / parry to overcome my expertise rating.
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In Sargeras I encountered enh shaman doing 134k Lava Lash crits in End Time @Murozond.
An example of top dps enhancement shaman on Baleroc in retail: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-mczvo6vf1b4zt062/details/0/?s=7950&e=8062
Check out Brothers in Death @Sargeras recruitment thread, their DS screenshots have interesting enh shaman dps...
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omg shaman lava lash is soooo imba 134k crits omg omg so haxxx plz nerf
grow up, you whiny titsuckers. Stop looking at the crit and look at the overall damage done. It's still roughly the same with every other dps second higher damage contributor.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-mczvo6vf1b4zt062/details/8/?s=7950&e=8062
hunter cobra shot deals a larger amount of damage overall, by about 20-40k in the same encounter.
notice the top damage (explosive shot) deals almost 1.3 million damage, compared to shaman's almost 800k melee hits (also top damage)
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-mczvo6vf1b4zt062/details/3/?s=7950&e=8062
fire mage, top damage (fireball) deals 1.5m while second best (ignite) 600k
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-mczvo6vf1b4zt062/details/4/?s=7950&e=8062
rogue, top damage (melee) 1.6m, second damage sinister strike 1m. ONE. ****ING. MILLION. Higher than ****ING GLASSCANNON SPELLCASTER MAGE.
need I go on?
stupid wheeny butts.
Know your numbers before posting your blabbers about how high lavalash damage is.
oh, and btw lavalash crit average on molten is roughly the same with the logs up there too, sometimes it crits for 130k and sometime they only crits for only 50k. That's because we're using axes and fists. They got a big damage swing between min and max. The average of crits still around 60k-80k.
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LOL Are you talking about Odinstorms damage on Warlord?
Do you even know the fight? we bounced the ball 10times everytime and so at the end of the fight he had 100%+ damage taken. She also has 2 416 weps and 416 wrath of unchaining with HC FL gear. sooo yea
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-I'm talking about relative enh shaman dps to other classes... Enh shamans are allways second if not first in meters. That's a fact.
-Here lava lash #1 damage done overall ability. On retail it's #2 at best.
-On retail in raid enh shaman crit for 87k lava lash at best, here decently geared enh shaman 137k. See the difference?
@brontokz: "Omg i do 100k crits with my skills im so good at this game pls its not broken." Titsucker.
Enh shaman players, please don't deny your class needs some tweaking on dps. Thank you.
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What about hunters damage? Every raid i've been a hunter has always been first in damage o.O
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