1. Yes mister, you are hell of a wrong!
    Your Example 1, where you say there was no Shadowmourne information given is so ****ing wrong. There was a thread made by Kaer Wolf regarding Shadowmourne, day of even few hours after servers started running again. It's not their fault that you or others in this situation didn't bother to find this thread or similiar to it beucase there were like 1 thousand. Unlike the rest of cry babies that spent their coins, I saved my coins thanks to the information that Kaer Wolf provided us.
    There were many threads, but no definitive answers. The recent Q&A session they had DID confirm Shadowmournes return, but didn't explicitly state the conditions, as these are still being decided. Calm down buddy.. I know this item is important to you but you should try to debate without swearing and calling people crybabies..

    Well I am sorry but you should have had it before the wipe, so you can have the opportunity to requipt it. For you and the others who can't get it now there will be chance to try it after they set the Legendary item available for everyone.
    I don't want it.. seriously you won't get one iota of respect for seeing PvP success while wielding this weapon. It's a matter of opinion, yours is that new player should be shafted regardless of the contributions they have made to the server. Mine is that all players should be treated equally, as to start adding restrictions on the best item in the game is going to cause a lot of controversy.

  2. No, it doesn't seems off at all. You made a choice to gear up four characters instead of investing on a Legendary item. They made the opposite choice. They are being given a chance to use their refunded coins to simply get back something they met hard requirements to have.

    So let me put it this way then: is it fair that the investment in coins and time that people who got Shadowmourne before gets thrown in the trash because people who preferred to gear a wide number of characters with those coins got all of those spent (and quite well time-worn) coins refunded?

    PS: Just in case - it's a rhetorical question, since the answer is obvious.
    I do not agree with the whole they made the opposite choice part. What are the hard requirements they met? Are those requirements the 150 coins you can purchase? If they bought it without the discount the requirements they met to buy it are absolutely nothing besides donating money to molten, so I do not understand why they will be given the opportunity to buy it again for 150 coins, while I would not be given this opportunity?

    The money I donated should be worth just as much as the money someone else has donated right? I understand because I did not have it before the wipe I can't get it now with any kind of discount, but I should atleast be able to get it for the 150 coins if you ask me.

    I know there is not a final answer about this yet, but I simply don't agree with you and just wanted to tell you why.

  3. There were many threads, but no definitive answers. The recent Q&A session they had DID confirm Shadowmournes return, but didn't explicitly state the conditions, as these are still being decided. Calm down buddy.. I know this item is important to you but you should try to debate without swearing and calling people crybabies..



    I don't want it.. seriously you won't get one iota of respect for seeing PvP success while wielding this weapon. It's a matter of opinion, yours is that new player should be shafted regardless of the contributions they have made to the server. Mine is that all players should be treated equally, as to start adding restrictions on the best item in the game is going to cause a lot of controversy.

    Treated equally? I don't think its equal treatment to allow players who never have donated money for shadowmourne and get it at the same price I will get it, with their FREE coins from holiday bonuses + the 10-50 that molten gave us all as an apology. Molten is giving equal treatment to everyone, people that had shadowmourne before the wipe will get it again, how is this discrimination or favoritism? They had the item before so they rightfully deserve to have it back. No one forced people who donated pre wipe to get items other than shadowmorune, why is this so difficult for you do understand? Is it because you are in denial???

  4. May we have some information about the marketplace's update?

  5. May we have some information about the marketplace's update?
    I would wait till 10th as it is most likely it will be added on that date or delayed.

  6. Treated equally? I don't think its equal treatment to allow players who never have donated money for shadowmourne and get it at the same price I will get it, with their FREE coins from holiday bonuses + the 10-50 that molten gave us all as an apology. Molten is giving equal treatment to everyone, people that had shadowmourne before the wipe will get it again, how is this discrimination or favoritism? They had the item before so they rightfully deserve to have it back. No one forced people who donated pre wipe to get items other than shadowmorune, why is this so difficult for you do understand? Is it because you are in denial???
    Free coins is a problem, agreed. They should only allow the item to be bought with coins that were donated for.

    The main point of contention here is that somebody who donated for 150 coins in the past and bought Shadowmourne with it should not be considered a more valuable Molten customer than somebody who donated for 150 coins and spent them on other things.

    Since both of the players donated significant amounts they should both be eligible.

  7. Free coins is a problem, agreed. They should only allow the item to be bought with coins that were donated for.

    The main point of contention here is that somebody who donated for 150 coins in the past and bought Shadowmourne with it should not be considered a more valuable Molten customer than somebody who donated for 150 coins and spent them on other things.

    Since both of the players donated significant amounts they should both be eligible.
    Finally you say something that is valid, and you are aware of the lump sums of free coins floating around. If it is possible to differientate gifted/holiday/bonus coins form actual purchased coins, sure allow those people to get shadowmorune, but allowing ppl who have 5-10 accounts all with the 10-50 free coins recieved and just transferring them all to their main is something completely unfair. For example just from these bonus "apology" coins from the 3 accounts I have I could go transfer them to 1 account, and I'd have enough for a FREE shaowmourne.

    But you also have to put yourself in the shoes of a person who donated specifically for this item or the other legenary, to see both sides of the argument of whats actually fair and whats not fair. I mean I could also argue that the post molt down coin refund is clearly an attempt to get us back on our feet as best as molten can with limited comcrete proof of who had what pre wipe, and alot of people abuse this by creating new classes they never played before using "well worn refunded coins" to quote obnoxious, and this is also not very fair of people to do to molten right, I thnk molten was more than generous to just give our coins back rather than just tell us to make the same classes and they will restore the items obtained via coin purchase pre wipe. No one forced anyone pre molt down to invest coins in a non sm class. Us people who "invested" in sm could have had 2-6 bis items, but instead we got all the requirements, grinded out the /played time, saved up money to get all these coins, and simply, we took one.

    This really shouldnt be an argument about whats fair and whats not fair. Ex shadowmourne arent getting any special treatment as you claim, they are getting the same treatment as you, you were given back coins to get the items you had before returned. We are given back the chance to have an item we also had before. Simple as that.

  8. Good god. The tears about Shadowmourne could provide Africa with drinks for a whole generation. Is Smourne really that important lol? Just wait until/if they release it and live with the situation. No one gives a rats *** about you ****s who complain. It's just a ****ing pain to watch tbh. It is what it is. Live with it.

  9. Good god. The tears about Shadowmourne could provide Africa with drinks for a whole generation. Is Smourne really that important lol? Just wait until/if they release it and live with the situation. No one gives a rats *** about you ****s who complain. It's just a ****ing pain to watch tbh. It is what it is. Live with it.
    I agree, we don't give a flying **** about those walls of texts.
    And once again, can we have some information about marketplace's update?

  10. I agree, we don't give a flying **** about those walls of texts.
    And once again, can we have some information about marketplace's update?
    The old information more than likely, still holds.. 5th - 10th, which usually means 10th-12th, because Molten. So no need for more information..

  11. What many people don't understand about SM requirements is that the debate is over now. We could write and suggest everything when things were still undecided, and I guess Molten staff did read all or many of people's suggestions, and we were right to do so.

    But once they state something, there is no point going on complaining and, for some, crying here.

    SM will eventually be available to those who did not get it in the past, just not with our current refunded coins, and for requirements which will be debated here and among Molten staff.

    But for now, the game is set.

  12. The whole conversation is rediculous.

    Previous people who had lolmourne before already got to use the freekin item plus now they have a full refund of all the coins they used to buy it with the first time. That's all the bonus the whiners need.

    If they want to re-buy the thing again, if it is offered on the marketplace, they can buy it for the same price as everyone else can now.

    Bonus coins were given to everyone. If the bonus coins were never meant to give everyone actual full value coins they should have given us all things called "monopoly coins". You can use monopoly coins only on stuff that is worthless. If we valued you we would have given you actual coins that are worth the same to everyone, but instead we give you monopoly coins to show you that we hate you.

  13. If we valued you we would have given you actual coins that are worth the same to everyone, but instead we give you monopoly coins to show you that we hate you.
    Now, Molten hates player. Ok.
    I suggest you quit WoW and play Monopoly.

    This thread is fantastic.

  14. Molten we gave you millions of dollars, just make it so everyone can get shadowmourne.

    inb4 20 people raging over this post.

  15. What many people don't understand about SM requirements is that the debate is over now. We could write and suggest everything when things were still undecided, and I guess Molten staff did read all or many of people's suggestions, and we were right to do so.

    But once they state something, there is no point going on complaining and, for some, crying here.

    SM will eventually be available to those who did not get it in the past, just not with our current refunded coins, and for requirements which will be debated here and among Molten staff.

    But for now, the game is set.
    it is still not decided... that is one thing and if ppl didn't complain about 30 days coin expiring they wouldn't have prologue it to 45-60 days now. Anyway ppl got right to tell what they think (as long they do not insult others and respect Molten forum TOS) u don't like their thoughts just don't read it plain and simple....

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