You made the right choice tbh; it didn't improve
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There actually are a few studies that show that eating more, smaller meals throughout the day is better for maintaining your current weight, or losing weight. Can't be bothered to find sources but I know they're out there. But, as for gaining weight, pretty sure it wouldn't really matter if you eat six small meals or three large ones per day.
Personally, I haven't gained a single pound in over two years -- I eat a bowl of brown rice with two eggs and some kind of seafood, usually some fish or shrimp around 11am for a lunch, not too big but a decently lightweight meal that's filling, and then I eat whatever for dinner, trying to keep it as healthy as possible. Works really well, I kind of trained myself to not be extremely hungry, or just put up with it if I am. Water/fruit and granola to snack on if I need it.
It entirely depends on a person. You cannot put everybody under one line, because different organisms react differently to things. I am telling you things that professionalists have told me and adviced me and things that I have experienced because in order to get out of my skinny status years ago I had to do the things I spoke of in the comments sections.
I used to be skinny, now I am musciline fit and as I said in my very first post I've been exercising from whole 5 years. If you don't want to believe them it is your own problem, not mine.
I don't know how many times should I repeat you the very same thing, but it seems a lot of times is required - I have gone through that. There is a difference when somebody speaks of something he have read and when the person has experienced it.
Facts are facts and they stay facts to the last. It is a fact that I have been through that, and that I fought to get out of the skinny status, it is also a fact that this is the routine I've been following, and it is also a fact that after following that routine I achieved my goal, therefore it is a fact that what I say is true.
You can say whatever you want it doesn't really matter, because I have achieved it. All I did here was trying to help people who struggle with the thing now. Showing them what is needed to get through it. Will is needed, and exercising. If you have the will and if you've never done something so greater for your own sake, then you learn to make it.
For some people it is easier, for others it is harder. It entirely depends on the person (there are people who don't eat almsot anything and don't lose any weight, there are people who eat plenty of food and can't gain any weight, there are people who eat and gain weight, there are people who eat and lose weight - there is no more brighter example that could be given to you).
People are different and the very same methods somebody used and worked for him might not work out for another person, that's what you don't understand. That's why if you go to the gym you could ask all of the people who have achieved something for an advice. Or ask a fitness trainer to help you out with some knowledge on that theme, instead pretend how much you know on your own about the human body. It works one way for you, it works another for others. A fitness trainer will see your body information and make a program based on your results on what you need to do and how, same for dietologists.
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i googled this right quick and all i found was articles saying that such studies were inconclusive.
Wow... Do you realise how serious your statement is, girl ?
You really should read more about that, because weight can be inherted from parents and I can confirm that more than anyone here. My father has always been fat while he has never been much of an eater, and the same goes for almost all members of his paternal family. His sister is so fat she can barely move from home, and her alimentation is as poor as that of her brother. My own sister got that from him and she has to remain days eating 3 grams of salad to begin to lose some weight, while I eat far more than her and am still everything but fat...
No, it is not, and I'm surprised someone like you is telling such things. What matters is not only how much you eat overal, but also "how" you eat and "when" you eat...
Eating too fast can make you fat. Eating before bed can also make you fat. As for meal frequency, there is still a study that shows how important it is to weight loss.
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FInally somebody else who is well stepped on the ground, and who doesn't need to pretend on knowing a lot. Experience speaks for itselfs. Only experienced people know what they handle. The rest are troublemakers.
Thanks for stating what is the factual truth. ;) <3 It was defintiely needed, if one person is not enough to convince the 'wooden philosophes' something.
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Did you even look at this study?
Oh boy, more misinformed individuals have come crawling out of the woodwork.
Variations in metabolism are quite minimal.
http://examine.com/faq/does-metaboli...o-people.html/
The "genetic" component you're trying to establish by citing your own single example (lol) quite likely has much to do with environmental factors shared by your entire paternal family. You see whole families of fat people because, surprise, the whole family eats very similarly (though of course this isn't always the case; some people manage to maintain different dietary habits). Additionally, unless you and your sister are meticulously tracking how much you're eat, move, and weigh over an extended period, we can't be sure her metabolism is significantly slower than yours. Studies suggest that is improbable.
I'm surprised you're linking articles without reading them. The first article is about the length of time it takes to feel satiated, which is irrelevant if you're planning your meals ahead of time. It's also talking about eating actual meals slowly, not the number of meals one consumes throughout the day.
The second articule you linked actually supports what I'm saying:
What ultimately matters is how much you eat, so you should plan meal timing based on what feels best to you to ensure that you can stick to your caloric goals.Weight management comes down to calories consumed versus calories expended.
I don't know why you linked only the abstract of the third article, but the conclusion supports what I've been saying this whole time:
I don't care about your personal experience; I care about what works for the vast majority of people. Your vague citations of "professionalists" are irrelevant here.The positive relationship between the number of meals consumed and improvements in body composition were largely attributed to the results of a single study, calling into question the veracity of results. Moreover, the small difference in magnitude of effect between frequencies suggests that any potential benefits, if they exist at all, have limited practical significance. Given that adherence is of primary concern with respect to nutritional prescription, the number of daily meals consumed should come down to personal choice if one’s goal is to improve body composition.
You're absolutely right; there is a difference between reading something in a (valid) scientific study, and experiencing something oneself. As I said, I do not care about your personal experience, since you are only one person and not a valid representation of the entire population.
I've been telling people to figure out what works for them in regards to meal timing, but not caloric intake, as it's been fairly well established that the main factors determining metabolic rate are exercise level and lean mass, not some mysterious ****ing genetic component. You, on the other hand, have been trying to insist your personal experience with meal timing applies to everyone's fitness/weight goals.
I don't care about your personal experience. Was that not clear? Anecdotes are atrocious evidence; I'll listen to you when you manage to provide studies to back up your ridiculous statements.
You guys just like...need to chill out...
burn some sage
open your third eyes
the vibe in here is really rough and your auras are so dark
Debating on this forum always goes around people being disagreeable to each other and this is why I prevent myself from participating to any debate here. But since I involved myself in this one, I’ve no choice but finish it, maybe I’ll learn something from you.
First of all, the « genetic component » I « established » (?) (and I sadly don’t see anything funny in that but whatever…) by citing my own family’s case was only to give a simple example of when the heredity of metabolism can manifest, the main part of my answer to Kemii’s wrong affirmation was the first link you didn’t read properly (or maybe didn’t at all). I should have insisted on the verb « can » of my sentence but I guess it is too late now. Yes, it seems that variations in metabolism are quite minimal… and what of it ? I don’t see in which way this goes against the hereditary character that metabolism can have, and what you’re conjecturing about my family is wrong. Different people spread around the world eating all the same is that all you have to explain their obesity ? I sincerly would have thought of a better explanation from you. They don’t all eat the same, not to say they barely eat at all, but things are how they are, and I know of many similar examples. You say « studies suggest that is improbable », I ask « which ones ? ». Once again : have you checked the link ?
I think I’m the one who should be surprised here. The first article is about the lenght of time it takes to « finish a meal », wether you feel satiated at the end or not, which doesn’t have anything to do with planning meals. Only at start, they make a link between the « lenght of time» it takes to feel satisfied after a meal and other factors that article is precisely about, such as « easting fast ».
So, I’ll capy/past the text in which I linked it : «Eating too fast can (yeah, can) make you fat », so, please, tell me what’s the relation with the number of meals consumed per day ? I was only talking about that at the end of my post, and those three links were an answer to your statement as a whole.
« You can gain weight wether you eat everything spaced out or in a few meals ; all that matters is how much you’re eating overal. »
Then again, you also don’t seem to have read all the second article. I chose it precisely because I saw it was objective and interesting. Let us start by the start :
« Eating at night can affect one's weight, in positive or negative ways. According to research published in the "American Journal of Nutrition" in October of 2008, those who consume snack foods at night are prone to weight gain. Those who overeat during evening hours are also more prone to weight gain »
I have to insist on the « can » of my sentence, before going any further. So the study obviously talks about « snacks », and then the article jumps to the impact of « the type of food » on someone’s weight, which goes totally against your statement, once again. The article, as you didn’t seem to notice, doesn’t only talks about eating at night.
« The type of food you consume makes a difference as well, as nutritious foods, such as fruits, vegetables and whole grains, tend to be more filling and provide higher amounts of essential nutrients than junk food, thus promoting healthy weight management. A calorie is indeed a calorie, but considering the sources most of your calories stem from can impact your weight and wellness »
And yes, the weight management does come down to calories consumed versus calories expanded. Hopefully it is the case, and you didn’t discover America, nor did I ever say this isn’t the case.
Copy/past from my first reply to you : « What matters is not only how much you eat overall », so it is no use quoting one sentence amoung 100 from an article that talks about more than that…
Finally, I only linked the abstract of the third article because the conclusion was in its end in case you didn’t notice, and this is why I talked about one single study in my post. I found that it was a good summary of the whole article which people wouldn’t even bother reading due to how horribly long it is. But since you seem to be interested in it, allow me to quote the last sentence of the conclusion you deliberately wanted to avoid :
« There is emerging evidence that an irregular eating pattern can have negative metabolic effects, at least in the absence of formal exercise. This gives credence to the hypothesis that it may be beneficial to stay consistent with a given meal frequency throughout the week. »
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Your family example doesn't establish heritability because it doesn't control for environmental factors shared amongst family members. I'm assuming many members of your family grew up with each other and learned similar eating habits, even if some of them live in different areas now. If your entire paternal family grew up in completely different households from each other you should have mentioned that. Regardless, a single family is insufficient evidence. I shouldn't need to explain this; didn't you claim to have some sort of scientific background before?
This whole thing started because I disagreed with the assertion that you have to eat more than three meals a day to gain weight, not about the speed at which you eat those meals. The article is talking about the amount of time it takes to feel satiated after a meal, which, as I said, doesn't really matter if you're making food choices based off a daily caloric budget and macro nutrient ratio. The title does say that eating too fast can make you fat, but the article goes on to say that eating too fast can make you not feel full and go on to eat too much, which is an important clarification and something I'm not trying to contend.
Yes, the most important factor is how much you eat, so you should choose when to eat (the number of meal you eat or whatever, which, I remind you, is what we've been discussing) based off whatever makes it easiest for you to maintain that daily caloric intake.
I didn't deliberately avoid the conclusion. It says the effects of irregular eating are minimal compared to the effects of total intake, which supports what I've been saying this whole time. Even if there is some effect from irregular eating - which the meta analysis also says is debatable - it is so small compared to the effect total caloric intake has that hitting caloric goals should be prioritized over eating a certain number of meals in a day. Some people don't have the time for 6+ bull**** meals throughout the day and trying to eat every x hours or whatever **** just because of what one study says needlessly complicates matters.
At least you didn't break your thumb and knuckles then bust your gearbox all on a Sunday.
I'll admit I'm considering including myself in this special needs debate.